• Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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      Why? Cuz Chinese bad? Stolen data bad? I think you don’t understand that there is no safe data. It doesn’t matter who is taking it but your data is owned by someone. If not the Chinese it’s the US government. If not them then you’re phone provider. If you purchase ANYTHING, that store is collecting your data.

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        2 days ago

        People keep making this argument comparing TikTok to American social media companies when talking about data.

        What is hard to understand? Americans are fine with other Americans or American companies having their data. Americans are not fine with China having their data.

        It is pretty simple.

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            1 day ago

            That’s one way to look at it, not my intent but if that’s how you took it, enjoy.

            More like, foreign control of my mental state is bad.

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              It really just sounds like unintentional racism to me. A vague dislike and distrust of foreigners. Nobody able to prove the Chinese intentions are any worse than the American gov’s intentions.

              I agree mas data collection is wrong, but if we’re gonna be upset, it’s gotta cover the whole topic, not just china

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    3 days ago

    The number of people in the comments celebrating censorship by our own government while also claiming China is authoritarian is insane.

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      2 days ago

      Both can be true. I’m against banning TikTok, but I also think TikTok is absolutely terrible and nobody should use it. China is authoritarian, and this ban by the US is wrong. I say this as an American.

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        Why is it terrible? Have you ever even been on it? Most people I’ve encountered that say it’s terrible or it’s brain rot or something along those lines have never even been on it, they’re simply parroting what they’ve heard other people say

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          Where do I begin:

          1. China has more-or-less direct control over the app, and China is an enemy of the US
          2. extensive tracking
          3. it’s designed specifically to be addictive instead of beneficial

          Other SM apps do 2 and 3, but that doesn’t mean TikTok is okay, it means those other apps are also terrible.

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              I’m guessing you’re talking about the first point, so I looked into it and it seems China only owns a “golden share” (1%?), which doesn’t seem big enough to really cause problems. That said, I don’t know much about Chinese business, so maybe there’s still something there. But that’s just speculation, not evidence.

              That said, that doesn’t change my opinion of it being terrible, because the last two points still stand. They also apply to domestic social media apps as well.

              I’ll repeat it again, I don’t think it should be banned, but I also don’t think anyone should use it.

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                That’s the thing, the last time the government did something this sweeping without showing it’s evidence, me and a few hundred thousand of my best buddies got sent to Iraq.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Banning a SM app is nothing like declaring a War on Terror. For the record, I opposed both, as well as the War in Afghanistan. I’m sorry you were sent to fight in a pointless war.

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    I’m not really one for Tik Tok, but I went on REDNote to see what it was about and it was incredibly wholesome seeing American and Chinese people getting to interact as normal human beings and understand each other without it being filtered through our governments. Even if they don’t shut down Tik Tok, they’re gonna have to shut that shit down. Can’t have future soldiers seeing their “enemies” as humans.