Fair enough, yeah I might still dabble in trying it out if I find the time. I just hate adds and apps to a pathological degree, so if discord gets too gross I wanna know how hard it would be to jump ship lol. Thanks for the insights!

My main experience with it was setting up a little space on the matrix.org server. We could in theory venture out into the broader server, but never really bothered. So it definitely wasn’t exactly discord, but worked well for our needs of having a couple rooms and the option to hop into a persistent video/voice room with jitsi.

I’ve never touched the server side, but I am a little curious, especially with the QR account creation someone else mentioned. Not needing to walk folks through logging into another service, and instead just having it be a webpage they visit that stays working would be rad. How did you find running the server?

Yeah I can see what you mean. Even if it is just a sectioned off bit of the glob of discord servers, a discord instance does feel like an island in a way that a matrix space does not. Last I remember using them it was still a little messy in ways that felt strange too. The real struggle is having folks to check them out with considering many of my friend group already had to be talked into trying discord lol.

Isn’t replicating this the goal of spaces? How are those doing on matrix?

That’s fair, I know there is like communities or something, but they seem a bit janky. It’s definitely not “there”, but it’s better than some of it’s reputation suggests.

I remember setting up persistent rooms with jitsi that function like discord rooms, I guess not native, but it was from a plugin that was near native. There was also a feature I remember them mentioning for drop in video calls, but I haven’t tried those.

I won’t argue it’s a full replacement, I think you still can’t do push to talk or toggle mute, which is pretty disqualifying for me. But it’s definitely closer than Telegram or Lemmy.

Element does have voice/video channels.

They actually can’t they’ve just spent decades packing the judicial system that was meant to hold them accountable, while their opponents watched and did nothing.

Absolutely, but if one has no idea what they are talking about, they might massive brain worms about the US debt and it being caused by our budget deficit. Then they look at all these other countries and learn about the ‘deficit’ we have with them and that’s the same word, same thing, ezpz. Now you simple get a solid 50% debt to income ratio by dividing the two and cutting it in half, check mate economists.

Putting on my best swiss cheese brain, maybe they are treating it ‘like a business’ and trying to do debt to income ratio? So our deficit is the debt then they look at tariffs on the imported goods as the income.

Do you know if this holds for other countries too?

If they are ethically made by union labor, there is nothing anti marxist about selling a shirts. 😁

If there are issues like this, sounds like a good goal for a country that wants to divest from US tech companies.

Fair, I’ve never used Briar, so I was mostly responding to the others. I complete agree though, the fact that there are so many is super frustrating.

I think it has tor routing by default, so different in that way?

It’s also only preventative, seems like this is more reversal.

Until you’re ready for your old man era, presumably.

PUT ON THE WIG DEGENERATE

It sucks because dating apps are a pretty trash experience all around, and definitely have some fundamental demographic issues, but god damn do the incels go wild whenever the conversation comes up.

water the tree of liberty? 🥰

Oh so they’re wrong. Okay