I’ve been putting off switching because of everything I have setup for work, but next week I have a new laptop arriving and I’ll be wiping the pre-installed windows and chucking probably fedora on it.
Once I have that first one done, I’ll be able to start moving all my others. I have a bunch of Hyper-V VMs that I need to migrate which has been the main cause of my hesitation.
Check fan speed volume before and after linux to see how many background AI scrapers were removed lmao.
I’m not much of a gamer, not because I don’t like to game, but because I’m old and have little time for it. That has made Fedora Workstation my preferred desktop/laptop OS for the last 6 years or so. Maybe that’s the reason why I just can’t understand why people keep putting up with Microsoft’s bullshit.
I have tried Endeavour about 4 times over the years, but in trying to ‘make it my own’ I always end up breaking it badly and come back to Fedora for a stable few months before going on a distro-hop riot all over again. Linux certainly is a lovely drug to be hooked on 😁
I feel you. Ive been going through this loop over and pver again. Ive landed on the fedora based Universal Blue for this reason. Bluefin for my desktop and bazzite for my gaming PCs. Sometimes you just want your system to be stable and get out of your way and i really appreciate thay about fedora.
That was the one Distro that appealed to my wife enough for her to allow me to switch her Windows in her work PC. Now she hates to have to go to her windows laptop to do some taxes shit in our country every month because they only allow excel.
Doesn’t one of the office alternatives do .xlsx? Or at least use the web version of excel?
Only Office and LibreOffice do, I but the macros used by our tax authority completely break there, so she’s left with the excel option alone.
Go figure, but the web version of excel should work.
According to her, it didn’t work. I have no idea what macros those are, and in all honesty, I don’t care either, as I don’t have to do it (I know that’s a douche comment, but here we are). As long as I’m not the one hack g to deal with that crap, I’m not even asking. At the end of the day, that’s all she uses that laptop for, the rest is either company hosted or self hosted and she can use it all on her phone or tablet when she’s out and about or in her PC when I get home the office.
Yes, I’ve been experimenting with different Linux distros since 2008 and I was pretty skeptical about “Atomic” distros when they first started buzzing around a few years ago.
However, this past year we’ve had to make the jump to Linux due to windows 11 shenanigans. But let me tell you. She’s got Bazzite and I’ve had to distro hop different arch distros.
But let me tell you, I am incredibly jealous of the amount of things that “just work™️” on her setup. Things that I’ve had to track down on obscure forums. Avoiding footguns and landmines.
I used to recommend Ubuntu, then it was Linux Mint, and now, I recommend any Atomic distro that fits your purpose.
I tried Ubuntu first, because I had heard of it, and too many things didn’t work. At the time I was still on that other link aggregator platform and the Linux nerds there told me to try Mint and they were right. It just worked and I have happily run that ever since. It does what I do and isn’t Microsoft or the overpriced fruit company. I have no urge to distro hop at all. Fussing with my computer isn’t fun for me, I just want to use it sometimes. I agree, though, Linux is good and there’s something for everyone.
Sweet, I contributed to both those categories.
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I’m doing my part!
“EndeavourOS 0.07%”
Let’s goooo! There are dozens of us!!
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Recently tried CachyOS on my HTPC. Couldn’t get Sunshine to run. It looked beautiful though and the docs seemed really in-depth. Endeavour (thanks to Arch, I know) is just so stable and fast. Just the right amount of pre-installed stuff like reflector, yay, the firewall-config app for firewalld with sane defaults, nice BTRFS subvolume layout, correct NVidia drivers. Would be nice to have Limine (for BTRFS snapshots) as an option besides SystemD boot and Grub in Calamares but I installed it in addition to SystemD boot. Gaming works tremendously good. Everything else too.
I really can’t recall the last time an update went wrong. On both of my machines (one Intel, one AMD, both NVidia).
Sunshine was pretty effortless on cachyos for me, did you install it using pacman?
Yes AFAIK it is in the extra repo, which I’d always prefer to the AUR. Thing is, I tried Apollo beforehand, as I wanted clipboard support, which was probably only available in the AUR. Maybe that borked something with the install. I could install Sunshine though but Moonlight from my main Endeavor install couldn’t make any connection even with opening all the wanted ports in the firewall.
Don’t want to diss CachyOS. They’re sure doing tremendous work for the gaming community and all the default themes for the different WMs and DEs look enticing. I’m sure this was a case of PEBKAC.
You need to install CUDA first, if you have a Nvidia card. Limine is already an option when you install the os.
What’s your experience with gaming on endeavourOS been? What games do you play? Any issues with graphics or sound?
Pretty much everything I’ve tried has worked seamlessly out of the box. Obviously, the same issues crop up as with any other Linux system: you pretty much cannot play kernel level anticheat games, womp womp. I might have installed my video drivers myself, I honestly don’t recall, but it’s as easy as grabbing them from pacman.
For my particular setup, I’m using an Nvidia card and mostly only use Steam for games, although I have gotten Proton to work with a couple of games outside of Steam.
In case you’re new to Linux in general, when I first installed Steam, I noticed I could only play a small fraction of my games and was disheartened, but you just have to turn on the Proton compatibility layer and you’re good to go.
I do also have a Windows 11 VM for any compatibility issues, but I honestly haven’t booted it up in months.
all-time high
It’s 3.2%
I mean, sure, big headline is cool. But it’s 3.2%
It’s 3.2% of Steam Linux installs. The actual number is higher.
Closing in on 8% if you filter it by “English language only”. Chinese speakers overwhelmingly (almost exclusively) use Windows and make up about 30% of all Steam users, which skews the rest-of-world results. And I wouldn’t consider 8% of all prospective sales to be a joke, especially since that number only keeps on rising and by the time you’ve spent a few years writing a game it’s likely to be quite a bit more.
Why stop there? If you filter it by “users not using windows” we can get that number over 90%!
If you exclude non English language, you have to exclude their sales too… unless you’re suggesting the Chinese users that make up 30% of steam users don’t buy anything…
I mean…they considered piracy, and cheating, valid for a long time.
True. Was thinking of indie games, of the kind I might develop myself., which would be limited to the languages I speak myself.
If you’re developing something where you’d expect enough international sales to hire a translation team, then Chinese would be a sensible first choice, followed by Spanish.
no it’s followed by Japanese. Japan is the third largest market by videogame revenue. Sure Spanish is spoken by a large portion of the world population, but the video game revenue the Spanish speaking countries generate isn’t as large as that of Japan. Latin-American countries are middle income countries and if you sell games there you have to sell them at localized pricing. In Japan you can sell your game at around the same price as you’d sell the game in the US and the EU.
Japan generates about $26 billion in video game revenue while Latam around $13 billion and Spain €2.4 billion according to these sources
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/horizon/outlook/video-game-market/japan
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/horizon/outlook/video-game-market/latin-america
https://aevi.org.es/el-sector-del-videojuego-crecio-en-2024-con-una-facturacion-record-de-mas-de-2-408-millones-de-euros-y-22-millones-de-jugadores/ (FYI they use dots as a thousand separator in the 2.408 millones de euros)
Massaging the data to meet your desired stats. Like a politician.
Why not exclude even more countries that mostly use windows and then say “99% of steam users are using Linux*”
~*based on users in Afghanistan only~
Hey! I’ll have you know that 100% of steam users * are using linux.
* sample size : me
We should survey the linux_gaming community. That will give us a larger sample size that’s definitely representative of the broader trends
And I wouldn’t consider 8% of all prospective sales to be a joke
Don’t put words in my mouth. I never said it’s a joke.
It kinda just irrelevant, if you target mass market. But not a joke.
8% is irrelevant?
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3.2% on a gaming hardware survey is fucking insane stats for Linux though. Three years ago that wouldn’t have been believable.
3,2% out of what amount?
I thought about buying a framework 12 for kicks but it’s Intel only and for that reason I’m oooout.
It’s not a huge issue for me but I would love to upgrade to an AMD mainboard in the future
That’s the reason why I bought a 13 despite coming from multiple touch-screen laptops
Intel’s laptop CPUs were never bad tho? Is it just a solidarity thing because of the 13th and 14th gen processors frying themselves?
AMD fucks Intel hard since the birth of Ryzen CPUs, AMD Ryzen CPUs are more power efficient than intel which is ideal for laptops and Ryzen CPUs are a bit cheaper than with intel, also Ryzen iGPUs are more powerful than intel which is bonus
They’re power hungry for about the same performance as AMD. At least the i-series
Buying anything that isn’t an x3D CPU at this point is abject stupidity.
Intel CPUs might as well be worthless piles of sand. Hotter slower and higher battery usage.
As far as laptops are concerned Intel has not a single sku worth the sand it’s made of.
Idk the lunar lake look pretty good to me.
They always had shit integrated graphics. Only now that they make their own GPUs is when they finally started making decent ones
AMD marches “against Intel”? Is there some sort of confrontation going on between the 2? Or does this just mean AMD makes good processors and sells better?
I personally just don’t trust Intel. A lot of people just treat them as the default, but if you’ve been following the news for the last few years, there is a lot to be skeptical of quality wise.
if you have been following them for decades you know too
AMD: “Our partners will fry your expensive CPU on some boards.”
INTEL: “Our software will fry your expensive CPU on all boards.”NVIDIA: “Our partners will fry the planet for all!”
NVIDIA doesn’t make CPUsEdit: Tegra
Actually, they do! Now the Grace isn’t exactly something you’d plop into your desktop PC, but it’s certainly a CPU. I think they’ve made others too, and a new model (Vera) is coming.
They make entire SOCs. None of them are x86 because of the duopoly that Intel and AMD have thanks to their cross-licensing agreement, but they still have functional CPUs with a common ISA.
Looks like things changed the last decades? AMD was the only CPU I saw dying on my machine. Intel was rock solid, but that was years ago.
The US government has stake in Intel. Don’t trust them anymore.
Well I would like to see something on lunar lake too it very cool CPU Intel made by failed by advertising
I would like more from Intel as well. Not because of a CPU structure or anything, but just because competition is good for the consumer.
I’m releasing a new chipset structure. It’s not Intel. It’s not AMD. It’s BUTTS BUTTS BOOTYS.
So now all the best games will run on BUTTS BUTTS BOOTYS, and journalists will have to call it that.
Ya gotta be more subtle than that, something like BUTTS BUTTS COCKS so even if they abbreviate it, it’s still BBC
Imagine if they just pulled out of the market like crucial ram.
I don’t really think it’s the same.
Micron just became like Samsung. Samsung also doesn’t have a consumer DIY market brand. Companies like Kingston or G.Skill can still buy Samsung/SK-Hynix/Micron’s RAM, there’s been no actual reduction in supply.
If Intel did the same as Micron did, it’d be more like third parties could sell the consumer stuff under their own names (say, the Corsair 5 XYZ), and Intel only sold Xeons directly.
The anger for the RAM shortage should squarely be on OpenAI - they’re the ones who bought 40% of the world’s RAM supply (and not even from Micron, mind you, just Samsung and SK-Hynix) and kicked off panic buying. Maybe throw Nvidia in there for handing them the money to do it.
I don’t like the killing of Crucial, fuck Micron for that, but OpenAI is who triggered the RAM shortage, and Micron is actually the least to blame of the big 3 RAM manufacturers for the issues we’re having.
I appreciate that context thanks!
Yeah? Seems like the only thing currently released handheld wise is the MSI Claw AI+ 7 and 8. At $800-$900 it was a very hard sell.
The CPU itself might be strong for efficiency but it’s not like the claw crushed the competition. I feel like the number to meet or beat for a handheld is under $500.
Intel seems deemed too big to fail so I don’t doubt we’ll see a resurgence from them if they can manage to scrap most of the MBAs and focus on engineers.
Full survey with some historical charts here
