The Galaxy S series and the Pixel devices cost about the same tbh

So? That’s not what the person you replied was even saying. You completely missed the point of their comment.

looking at things i think i meamt Only Office. Any opinions there?

If I remember correctly, Only Office uses LibreOffice as its core and then adds or changes default stuff. I might be wrong about that. But ultimately I hear positive things about Only Office.

The hosting is on my old desktop which is running server 2016. I’d like to replace the OS on it too. I don’t keep the box online so I’m not keen on using it for anything other than game servers.

Sounds like a perfect situation for loading something like Proxmox and then visualizing the Windows Server 2016 instance. You would basically have the exact same functionality but with way more options like cloning and backing up the server.

Appreciate you not going aggro on me over it.

No worries at all. I think the automatic defensiveness from Linux people comes from old misconceptions being repeated often. Or sometimes it comes from how something is read and interpreted. Someone might say “I can’t switch because I need XYZ”, to which a very literal response is “you can use ABC which does the same thing, so you can switch”. When what the first person meant is "I can’t switch because I prefer XYZ", which is a completely valid reason.

I wasn’t going to berate you or anything. I was genuinely curious.

I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice

LibreOffice is great. I use it on my work system at a medium to larger sized company (every single other person uses o365). I haven’t heard anyone complain yet about doc comparability and I haven’t had any issues myself.

Stay away from OpenOffice. It’s practically a dead product. When Oracle bought OpenOffice, the community forked the project which became LibreOffice. LibreOffice is where all the development and community focus and effort has gone since.

OneNote is my second most vital

I don’t have any recommendations here. I’ve never really found a “perfect” solution for this. Currently I use a few different solutions, but it’s all centred around markdown, so they’re all interchangeable.

OneDrive is probably my most vital.

I personally wouldn’t touch OneDrive with a hundred meter pole. MS does so much screwing around with your data that you can never be sure if the data stored is what you uploaded. They’ve been known to just up and delete files they scan and think is malicious, even if it’s a false positive. Then they’re known to scan all your documents for everything, including potential passwords, then use those passwords to open password-protected files and then scan them also.

Then there’s the situation from a year or so ago where they automatically switched everyone’s documents folder to a “cloud first” folder, where they just auto-uploaded everyone’s local files, deleted the local copies, and did it all without user consent or even informing users. And this resulted in all kinds of wild crap like people not having access to their documents because they were offline and were expecting local files. Then some people had their metered data connection getting maxed out. While others couldn’t even modify their files or even save a file to their “My Documents” folder because the default storage allocation was far less than the total data of their local files. So effectively the data was held for ransom.

it’s mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option.

Most newer games that you can run your own dedicated server will almost certainly have a Linux option, which suggests you might taking about older games, in which case something like Lutris (Wine) might be an option.

But are you hosting these game servers on your desktop?

I have an Mvidia card (drivers are notoriously troublesome on Linux).

They haven’t been for a while now. On some newer distros they’ll install the Nvidia drivers at the same time as the OS itself.

Nvidia GPUs are not good in Linux at the moment

They’ve been perfectly fine for years. And now they’ve never been better for desktop DEs.

What kind of things are holding you back?

This makes me think of my nephew who is convinced that a dog like a Cane Corso or Kangal can take on a bear 1v1.

You think those script kiddies know Rust?

78% is considered almost a statistical impossibility for these kinds of things. This is the polling equivalent of “every last person”.

And yet Graphene will still probably need more private and secure

The purpose isn’t to keep them out of your devices. The purpose is to have none of your critical data on it when they inevitably search/copy the data.

A Chromebook is really easy to wipe/reset and switch between accounts. Plus they’re relatively cheap.

It’s true for any variation of Linux. Hell, the vulnerability (Mimikatz) that was crucial in the most expensive cyber security attack in history is still there in Windows.

And for X11 to be exploited you would need to get and run malicious code in the first place. The Linux security model kicks in before you get to that point.

The security model is also very different between Linux and Windows. Linux is just inherently more secure.

who have invented their own language about syncing up, achieving alignment, creating action items

My soul contracted in upon itself a little as I read that.

they didn’t even wait to amend their own constitution to allow it before passing it. They will amend it though

That’s not better, you didn’t allow any smart TV to connect to the internet.

I bought a Samsung TV that wouldn’t let me change the input until I connected it to the internet, I returned that crap within the hour.

It has standard bash capabilities

Well, ya. Its terminal interface, I’d expect it to have “basic” capabilities.

also can run standard dotnet libraries.

That’s not exactly a selling point.

What can bash do that PowerShell can’t?

Write succinct and easy to read commands. Interop with all the powerful tools in the Linux ecosystem (which is the point of a shell like bash).

posix lost except insofar as it lives on in the two mainstream highly proprietary OSs.

That’s just simply not true. Three majority of core utils you find on most Linux systems are POSIX compliant or mostly compliant. IIRC all the GNU tools are POSIX.

PowerShell is better than bash

It factually and objectively is not

There’s a reason why POSIX is still enduring to this day. Microsoft’s penchant for writing short novels for a basic command is not what I would call “better”. And that’s ignoring the fact that PowerShell doesn’t have a fraction of *nix shell capabilities and utilities.

Apple is mostly idiot proof

It sure as hell is not. Not even close. That’s just the marketing that Apple has spent countless millions on propagating. You have no idea how many people over the years have asked me to help them with “simple” things on their Apple devices.

One example is my mother for whom I bought an iPad when she was moving across the country away from me. I thought it would simplify things for her since I couldn’t do visits to fix things when she needed help. After a couple weeks she finally called me to tell she doesn’t like it and can’t figure out anything on it. Swapped it out for an Android tablet and I haven’t helped her once since then (like 5 years ago).

Edit: I haven’t needed to help her, it’s not like I just ignored her from then on /Edit

I’ve also setup multiple people with Linux (including my parents) and I never get tech help calls about it. At most it’s my dad saying he can’t find his bookmarks or he forgot his email password.

So no, the idea that Apple is easier is just a lie everyone was tricked into believing. Most people have used Apple devices for a long time or know someone who has, so the support network is generally there for the small everyday things.

I didn’t have to show my aging parents a single thing on their Linux systems. I just setup their shortcuts for Chrome/Firefox and their documents to the same spot on the desktop as their old Windows install and they just use it.