• heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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    16 hours ago

    I’d have ever so much more sympathy if they hadn’t just spent over a year genociding Palestine…

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      7 hours ago

      Why would you have sympathy for Israel attacking without provocation a state that turned out to be stronger than they thought?

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      8 hours ago

      It’s wild hearing Americans who went on a 20 year genocidal way because they were attacked at home, cheering on others being attacked at home. Your government fucked by country and people, do I get to blow up your family and be cheered?

      Edit: never has my indigenous, brown ass received so many DMs with hate, bigotry, and rants about genocide and colonialism from white kids than this year. Without a hint of irony, American hypocrites are trying to lead a movement against war, genocide, racism and colonialism. While you profit from and continue your own atrocities Americans need to get in the back of the line, they are toxic to the movement

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        6 hours ago

        You assume I was for the 20 year genocidal war? Why? IMHO it was a huge fucking mistake too.

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        8 hours ago

        I mean, both the United States and Israel were attacked because of Israel.

        Israel deserves the blame because Israel is the problem.

        If they don’t like it, they can always leave. That would make the world a better place.

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          Americans are blood thirsty war hawks. You guys LOVE the idea of bombing someone you don’t like. Even the American left is like this now. So long as it’s not your country being bombed and getting their just desserts for al their genocide, you love war. But anyone attacks you guys for your centuries of atrocities and suddenly it’s WAR WAR WAR

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    Comment sections have been absolutely fucked since this started. I’ve seen some reports that these are hitting military targets but apparently I should be cheering about rockets landing a few dozen meters from this apartment?

    I remember a video of an Israeli rocket hitting just outside a shop window in Yemen/Iran at a similar distance and people were balking that it could be hitting anything of strategic importance. Suddenly pictures of collapsed apartments and hospitals are fine because it’s the guys you don’t like?

    Apparently it’s a bad take for me to think civilians shouldn’t be bombed regardless of how much Zionist brainwashing they have. People talking about “they deserve it” and pointing to Isreal opinion polls showing 60% support X awful thing. Last time I checked, a rocket doesn’t take a survey before it explodes. So 4/10 people in that explosion deserve to die by association?

    You all make me sick, down vote away.

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      6 hours ago

      Israel used that apartment building to hide an F-35 which they used to bomb an Iranian hospital. There is undeniable evidence.

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        Where is that evidence? I’m not denying it, I’m asking for it and nobody provides it.

        Edit: from what I can tell that F35 rumor started in 2024 as a meme mocking Israel’s claims of apartments hiding Hezbollah weapons. Why would you stack up $100m planes in a place extremely hard to scramble them and perform maintenance?

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        By all means, I’ll take evidence that they’ve been hitting military targets. My issue is with people cheering videos like this lacking any of that evidence at all.

        And no, having a bunker doesn’t make a civilian population fair game. It’s the same thing as crowding people into internment camps while you level their neighborhood.

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    23 hours ago

    Imagine 20+ months of this without bomb shelters with minimum to no food and with constant shelling and moving. Israel has made bombings and terrorism become normal for people in yemen, lebanon, syria and Iraq. Israel has made the lives of millions unsafe in the middleeast.

    Germany, UK you created Israel government and the US enabled its colonization and genocide since day 1. Europe should take them back or stop them.

    In 2025, the humans of the world nations still compete in every scientific advancement known to mankind, and mine every precious and rare material source, and employ every advancement and investment in programming, AI, engineering and design on the planet for intimidation and colonization launching metals into each other bodies, polluting and destroying the planet climate and resources, spreading pain and murder to each other for selfish gain. Now those maniacs are threatening with nuclear missiles. People who do everything in their power and utilize everything in the possession to bring humanity and the world down.

    All because they want few Zionists to rule in aparthied and colonization and not give democracy to whom they see as inferior races of other humans instead of working and lifting each other. The world nations should stop this instead of heading toward WWIII as if humans cant learn history.

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      The world nations should stop this instead of heading toward WWIII as if humans cant learn history.

      That’s the most telling thing furute generations will look back upon this politicians that enabled such violence just to make some extra buck or a favor? Q

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      13 hours ago

      This is fucked up. Israeli citizens do not have to die because of what the government did.

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        This is fucked up. Israeli citizens do not have to die because of what the government did.

        If Israel is allowed and being enabled to raze Palestine, then nobody should take issue with Iran defending itself.

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          Israel isn’t justified for anything. War is never justified, the political leaders are on their couches watching tvs playing with the lives of their people

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        Yes they do.

        If they don’t want to live with the consequence of being in one of the most contested places on earth, they can always leave.

        It’s way easier for Israelis to relocate because of how much money they have. They just choose not to and deserve all of the consequences that go along with that.

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        Perhaps you have missed the part where Israeli citizens have been openly saying that we need to wipe Iran, Palestine and multiple other countries off from the world map.
        They want genocide; they will get some retaliation from who they are attacking. FAFO

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          Perhaps you have missed the part where Israeli citizens have been openly saying that we need to wipe Iran, Palestine and multiple other countries off from the world map.

          Not like Iranian and Palestinian people haven’t said anything similar. This issue is not black and white. There’s a hundred of different shades of piss and shit. Everyone is right from their standpoint and everyone is wrong from other’s standpoint.

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            I have much less of a problem with natives saying they should exterminate colonialists than I do the other way around.

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    Woah, that’s nuts. I feel like most missiles don’t reach target in Israel. Maybe that’s cause most are aimed at Jerusalem and the Iron Dome though?

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        11 hours ago

        I doubt Iran has any real hypersonic missiles, these are probably just balistic missiles.

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          You can definitely see a difference in speed between the missiles. Occasionally a slower missile lands as well.

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            I think the difference in speed in the video is just perspective + distance, plust Iran has many different types of balistic missiles. I mean, technically speaking many balistic missiles do go at hypersonic speeds, but that’s not what people mean when they say hypersonic missile, they refer to missiles that fly very low at hypersonic speed and can maneuver before hitting their target. You can clearly see the balistic trajectory of these missiles.

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      I don’t know if anyone has any real information but I’d think Iran would be shooting air bases and such. Targets that hurt Israel’s ability to hurt Iran. Israel’s command probably cares less about a residential building (full of people or empty) than a hangar with F35s.

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        Since Israel bombed the Iranian oil refinery and airport, Iran has started targeting Israeli power plants, ports and other infrastructure.

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        Iran are definitely targeting air bases and other militarized targets which are regions Israel has a media blackout on so we don’t hear about them as much and only hear about impacts in Tel-Aviv which is a militarized “civilian” zone (human shields was always projection of their own policies).

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        Iran has spent decades building an arsenal of cheap drones that aren’t really designed to hit targets, they are designed to financially cripple Israel by expending expensive iron dome charges.

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          From I’ve seen they certainly used that initially with mostly older, cheaper, and slower drones in the initial waves intentionally to bleed out the iron dome but have been changing their strategy as the “Iron Dome” is weakened and/or gaps are discovered.

          With each wave they adjust their strategy. Interspersing more Hypersonics and layering the drones in different patterns/locations to more readily distract/avoid the iron dome.

          From estimated ratios of 9 impacts out of/150 launched in the first few waves vs 9/50 in the more recent waves.

          Though obviously Israel hides the damage/strikes through media blackouts on military sites so we can’t know for sure how accurate these estimates are and we mainly only get reporting on impacts in Tel-Aviv or other militarized “civilian” zones.

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            Oh for sure, I’m just saying they don’t even need to hit any targets and they’d still be winning long term. They are capable of much more, and Israel can’t fight Iran without US.

            Satanyahu is betting on forcing Trump to agree to war with Iran on his watch. Avoiding that is thankfully one of Trump’s main priorities, hopefully they don’t succeed in changing his calculus on it.

            And they aren’t able to and won’t be able to maintain media blackout much longer, Iran has stated that they will keep going and will go harder, and we’ve already seen some seriously damaged neighborhoods. As long as Iran keeps it reasonable (and what is reasonable has changed tremendously in the last two years of genocide and western media going hard to defend and justify Israeli war crimes), I think Trump can tolerate way more destruction of Tel Aviv than netanyahu thought he would.

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          And the numbers are staggering. I forget exactly but those early retaliations for assassination last year that where laughed at expended something like 100s of millions of dollars.

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        I feel like attacking civilians also helps Israel’s propaganda while not hurting it’s capacity to continue escalating.

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      According to the people who posted it, it is from today. It is certainly not the same barrage as we saw Friday, but it could be another barrage which was on Friday. Nothing is entirely certain right now, but I think it is from today.