GL getting them at MSRP anyways, with or without Trump, scalpers gunna scalp.
But will this make the eggs cheaper??
Graphics cards will be the least of your worries. Putting tariffs on chips will crash the economy, there’s no way anyone will let him do this.
I like your optimism, but I won’t put my hopes in it.
Trump has shown that he is completely unhinged this time, he is out for blood and plenty of it.
this time?
Y’all really forgetting the first term that quickly?
His worst demeanor of the first term is the his new status quo…he’s speed running destruction now. The overton window is shifting so far right, his first term is going to look dead center
The first time was purely a grift, this time it is a grift on top of a revenge.
Not forgetting, but he did seem to be holding back a little. To get back into office.
When it comes to the average American? Yes.
Weird, I didn’t realize I had migrated from Sweden to the US…
Everything he’s done thus far has been at the behest of someone else.
Thank you! Has no one else noticed he’s clearly on a leash now?! He not spewing toddler nonsense 20 times a day, hardly speaking in public, all that?
Has no one noticed how much more efficient his government is this time?
Yeah, Putin and Xi Jinping
And various local billionaires
there’s no way anyone will let him do this.
America: Hold my beer.
You think the 3 richest men in the world hanging into his coattails at all times will let him wreck all their businesses in one fell swoop?
You know how the republicans tried to use the batshit right and ended up just getting digested?
Techbros time to learn the leason
The 3 richest guys think they can control Trump and Maga but they are not “true believers”.
The project 2025 implementors truly believe they are doing the right thing and everyone who disagrees might end up on the guillotine Robespierre -style.
They want the economy to crash.
One side because they like to crash businesses and then walk away with all the money, and they figure a country is no different.
And the other side will let them, because they want people to stop playing those degenerate evil video games. That it does great damage to the country is simply a just punishment for allowing such degeneracy in the first place, in their minds.
Wrong kind of crash and video games aren’t what’s being affected here. It’s cars, ai, defence contracts, Israel
There’s no way it would go through unless Trump is replacing Taiwan with China like he does with other targeted tariffs
The amount of people who don’t know how pervasive computer chips are; is only slightly above the amount of people who support trump.
Which is insane because it was all over the news just a couple years ago about why vehicle prices had gotten so high… Because of a chip shortage.
I’m just saying that’s what they think. Of course it’s going to fuck everything else over, but the people supporting this in the hallowed halls of congress seem to be in one of two camps lately.
Consumer graphics is a tiny fraction. The real buyers are enterprise datacenters and super computers. El captian at the Lawrence Livermore national lab alone has 43,000 apus.
Crashing the economy lets them buy companies for cheap so they’ll concentrate even more wealth onto themselves when the economy rebounds.
Hitting the tech sector harder than everything else will remove their ability to leverage their own tech businesses to buy up others.
Depends on how much of their money is liquid or in non-tech assets. It doesn’t matter that the tech sector gets hit the hardest if they’re certain that they can get it to bounce back by the time they’ve bought out companies in other sectors.
The answer to that is very little of it. Their networth is due to their ownership of these stocks. If the value of these stocks dip more than others (and due to the AI craze, they are more inflated than even other tech stocks), they lose collateral to borrow against (this is how musk bought Twitter).
All it would do is force people to keep their very much still capable last gen computers lmao
There are chips in nearly every single appliance you own at this point. From your car to your toaster.
I read “car” as “cat”… and that would still be correct sometimes.
Sorry - all it would do in regards to “countering the threat of gaming”
It’ll push everyone to move their data centers and IT cores overseas.
Very true, it’s not just processors, it’s also a lot of semiconductors used in every device ranging from your TV, to your washer, to your car.
Everything electronic will be hiked up astronomically.
And given what trump and Republicans who have control of everything and what they’ve already jammed through, I would bet on anyone standing up and stopping this or any other tariff he’s promised.
It would be so hilarious if he actually did something so fucking dumb as put tariffs on Taiwan. Please self-destruct already and please do it quickly, you fucking loser
Can’t wait for prices to quadruple and for rich people to own literally everything. Maybe when we have nothing left we will actually try to stop them.
That’s literally the direction we are headed and we’re picking up speed.
As I mentioned in another thread, I don’t think that he’ll be able to attract chip makers to USA. Instead I think that he’ll kick every industry relying on those chips out of USA.
TSMC has been complaining/level setting the AZ plant already. They’re saying they can’t find qualified employees, regulations on water, you know building a water intensive process in the middle of a damn desert that has a water shortage for a decade now, and things like sulfuric acid, but the biggest things is they pointed out that Taiwan has laws preventing advanced manufacturing process from being moved out of the country.
That is the biggest things that will prevent them from producing what Trump thinks will happen with these I’ll thought out tariffs and you may be right that it will piss them off enough to pull all the way out.
Forced myself to build a new rig last summer largely because I had a feeling Trump would win and everything would get more expensive. I probably should have bought a new used car as well. Any big purchases should have been done before Jan 20.
Well all the tariffs tanking the US economy is bad news… but maybe I can sell off some of my old GPUs afterwards.
You know what’s cheaper than a $2000 RTX 5090? Not spending money or upgrading unless you actually need to.
And you miss the whole point. So you think this only affects the 5090? You do realize that even the lowly B570, $219 MSRP, is manufactured by TSMC and would be hit by the moronic Republican 100% tariff.
Good luck average/budget gamers.
I think I might get the point…but I think we are past trying to build budget friendly PCs for gamers wanting to play the latest AAA titles.
As a gamer myself, it’s sad but I’m tightening up my belt and preparing for much worse economic consequences. Like what a 100% tariff on Taiwan made chips will mean for the US military budget and the national debt.
Honestly, I’m anticipating buying junk hardware for at least the next 4 years that’s being auctioned off by companies that are not able to deal with the new economic hardships that this and other decisions are going to create. I doubt I’m going to be able to play the latest games nor will I be able to afford them. Luckily I have a backlog of games and there are a lot of books I want to read too.
I think one of the bigger consequences of this in terms of pure compute is people not being able to self host open source LLMs and similar models offline. As I think this will soon become something that’s expected to have access to in the next couple of years.
Again, I know I posted about PC/video cards because this is a PC gaming sub but this will affect so much more we use and buy and having a computer to self host is the least of your worries.
TV’s? Uses tons of semiconductors, 100% tariffs. Washing machine? Semiconductors, 100% tariffs. Car? So many semiconductors, 100% tariffs. That cordless impact drill? Semiconductors, 100% tariffs.
If it has any electronics your going to be paying more with this cockamamie grift.
I’m in agreement. I think where our opinions differ is that I’m not worried about consumer electronics in this new economic and political reality. And the reason I’m not worried is that I know it’s fucked.
We will not see the type of economy that we have been used to for quite some time. And if the last democrat admin is anything to consider, then I doubt these insane new regulations will be repealed even if the Republicans lost power in 4 years.
I think there are much greater concerns than consumer electronics and now is the time to plan for them.
Computers have a life span. Every year, there’s a whole swath of people getting their first one - often for school, which is already prohibitively expensive
I am for getting tech you need when you need it. I’m against buying tech you might want to have now just in case it cost more money in the future.
If you are really concerned about future costs of essential items that you will die without, then I suggest stocking up your pantry with shelf stable food as much as you can and researching what you can do to help your local community grow their own food.
I couldn’t afford one no matter what, but fuck Trump on all fronts.
