I heard that game has a really bad problem with cheaters. Addressing that seems like it would take precedence over getting the game on Steam. You only get one shot to make a first impression and all.
There’s a pretty massive item market for this game to use real money for in-game items, where the seller will meet you in a match and drop the gear. So there’s a big financial incentive for people from third world countries to hack so they can quickly acquire valuable items to sell on that market.
I agree with you, but there are people who enjoy moving over others’ sandcastles more than making their own. Some people enjoy ruining things for others. Others believe everyone else is cheating too, and their cheating is evening the playing field. The latter is a very common defense when asked directly.
Several content creators lose to cheaters and manage to interview the blatant cheaters who admit to it. There are also relatively popular YouTubers whose entire channels are accusing pro players and streamers of cheating in COD and games. Lots of people assume good players are all cheating, and that it’s approved (if not facilitated) by the developers. (Which is a necessary belief for them, considering these players will also often perform very well on LAN tournaments against other pros.)
That was the point of my question, to be honest. I don’t understand. Cheating in a single player game to experience it I get. Unlimited ammo, all unlocks, that kind of thing - it lets the game be played differently. But against other players it seems completely pointless from my perspective.
The cheating problem is off the charts. There was a really good video of someone who investigated how bad it was, and found that about 50% of players were using wallhacks. of matches will have a hacker.
I played it for a couple months. The gunplay was pretty impressive, but the cheaters made it incredibly frustrating, and after seeing that video, I uninstalled and never looked back.
It’s likely around 30% total player base, and out of ten man raid your going to have likely 1 to 3. As cheaters like to squad up. It’s very common for large cheat discords to have fuck loads of people grouping up
The game is very fun and the loop is quite addictive, but PvE is probably the best thing that has happened to it in a long time. The AI needs minor tweaking, but not playing against other people and cheaters is so great. Being able to play with friends makes it fun.
Out of a lobby of 10 people 3 likely are cheating. Every person who’s ever cheated to show videos of their games has this experience. My own first hand try at cheating shows this.
The game literally is one of the most cheated in shooters there is.
I don’t understand why the game would get played at all if it was full of cheaters like this. how could that be fun? especially with something that requires as much patience as an extraction shooter
The game has a really bad problem with incompetent developers and project leaders who have shitty moral and ethical principles, and no I don’t think they are fixing that any time soon lol
There isnt actually a way to make functional anticheat as long as its playable on your own device. Its pointless to try and a waste of money. The only way is banning offenders and premium/custom matchmaking.
Till it hit steam, you have to go to a Russian website. Pay Russian company using a sketchy payment processor on a barely functional website with extremely poor security measures to use. A Homebrew janky launcher that barely works.
I heard that game has a really bad problem with cheaters. Addressing that seems like it would take precedence over getting the game on Steam. You only get one shot to make a first impression and all.
The game has had major cheating issues since Covid started. There only so much they can do when the game is built on over a decade of shit code.
Is there a modern popular shooter that doesn’t have a cheating problem? And if so, what are they doing differently?
What’s even the point of cheating in multiplayer?
There’s a pretty massive item market for this game to use real money for in-game items, where the seller will meet you in a match and drop the gear. So there’s a big financial incentive for people from third world countries to hack so they can quickly acquire valuable items to sell on that market.
I meant multiplayer games in general. People do it in games with no loot mechanics.
Winning at any cost, I think.
But if one cheats then it’s not a real win?
I agree with you, but there are people who enjoy moving over others’ sandcastles more than making their own. Some people enjoy ruining things for others. Others believe everyone else is cheating too, and their cheating is evening the playing field. The latter is a very common defense when asked directly.
Several content creators lose to cheaters and manage to interview the blatant cheaters who admit to it. There are also relatively popular YouTubers whose entire channels are accusing pro players and streamers of cheating in COD and games. Lots of people assume good players are all cheating, and that it’s approved (if not facilitated) by the developers. (Which is a necessary belief for them, considering these players will also often perform very well on LAN tournaments against other pros.)
Tell that to the cheaters. It doesn’t seem to stop them, so it must feel real to them.
That was the point of my question, to be honest. I don’t understand. Cheating in a single player game to experience it I get. Unlimited ammo, all unlocks, that kind of thing - it lets the game be played differently. But against other players it seems completely pointless from my perspective.
Since covid started? Lmao
The cheating problem is off the charts. There was a really good video of someone who investigated how bad it was, and found that about 50%
of players were using wallhacks.of matches will have a hacker.I played it for a couple months. The gunplay was pretty impressive, but the cheaters made it incredibly frustrating, and after seeing that video, I uninstalled and never looked back.
EDIT: The video in question.
*50% of raids had at least 1 player using wall hacks. There is a large chunk of the player base cheating, but it is definitely not 50%.
It’s likely around 30% total player base, and out of ten man raid your going to have likely 1 to 3. As cheaters like to squad up. It’s very common for large cheat discords to have fuck loads of people grouping up
Ah! My bad, it’d been a while since I saw that video.
The game is very fun and the loop is quite addictive, but PvE is probably the best thing that has happened to it in a long time. The AI needs minor tweaking, but not playing against other people and cheaters is so great. Being able to play with friends makes it fun.
I’ve also heard it doesn’t run on Linux, ironically due to it’s kernel level anti-cheat.
Online PvP raids don’t work, everything else does, including the SPT mod
Out of a lobby of 10 people 3 likely are cheating. Every person who’s ever cheated to show videos of their games has this experience. My own first hand try at cheating shows this.
The game literally is one of the most cheated in shooters there is.
I don’t understand why the game would get played at all if it was full of cheaters like this. how could that be fun? especially with something that requires as much patience as an extraction shooter
The game has a really bad problem with incompetent developers and project leaders who have shitty moral and ethical principles, and no I don’t think they are fixing that any time soon lol
There isnt actually a way to make functional anticheat as long as its playable on your own device. Its pointless to try and a waste of money. The only way is banning offenders and premium/custom matchmaking.
does the game just run off a downloadable exe? or is it on epic or something
They have their own launcher.
Till it hit steam, you have to go to a Russian website. Pay Russian company using a sketchy payment processor on a barely functional website with extremely poor security measures to use. A Homebrew janky launcher that barely works.
Just wait for it to come to steam
If you like the idea there is a PvE mode which is fine. But the AI has its own cheats and there are all the other issues mentioned in this thread.
Even with cheats, the AI still wins sometimes. That’s how insane the AI in this game is. It’s absurd.
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I haven’t played it, but it sounds like it doesn’t have a replay system, which apparently has exacerbated finding cheaters.
It doesn’t, and that’s one of the reasons I only play offline with mods rather than online.