• Carmakazi@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Personally I’ll avoid sending any Western money to the Russian economy that I can. BSG has been able to weasel out of political controversy thus far…but it’s a milsim, the devs are probably more pro-Russia than not, they’re just smart enough to keep their mouths shut and keep accepting Western patronage.

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      This also makes me curious how it was even possible for them to bring it to Steam in the first place, logically speaking, with Russia being under international sanctions and all major payment processors no longer accepting business from there?

      Did they like make this happen with a shell company or something elsewhere? Lol

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        9 days ago

        Because if I recall correctly. The company, Battle State Games, has offices in other countries which help them avoid these sorts of things.

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          Yeah. I think they’re officially registered as a UK company which means sanctions don’t apply.

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      I don’t remember the details but there are deliberate references to a real paramilitary group which fights for Russia.

      EDIT: The group in question is 715 Team. Their logo is shown on the “Ground Zero” map.

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        Blue beret item references the VDV, airborne russian troops, in the description. Also one of the armbands has the russian flag on it.

        Although because the game is shown through the lens of PMCs (you’re not fighting as or against Russian/UN/NATO troops), most of the russian military references are minimal (unless you count the descriptions of weapons detailing their design/usage histories).

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    I heard that game has a really bad problem with cheaters. Addressing that seems like it would take precedence over getting the game on Steam. You only get one shot to make a first impression and all.

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      The game has had major cheating issues since Covid started. There only so much they can do when the game is built on over a decade of shit code.

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        10 days ago

        Is there a modern popular shooter that doesn’t have a cheating problem? And if so, what are they doing differently?

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            There’s a pretty massive item market for this game to use real money for in-game items, where the seller will meet you in a match and drop the gear. So there’s a big financial incentive for people from third world countries to hack so they can quickly acquire valuable items to sell on that market.

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                I agree with you, but there are people who enjoy moving over others’ sandcastles more than making their own. Some people enjoy ruining things for others. Others believe everyone else is cheating too, and their cheating is evening the playing field. The latter is a very common defense when asked directly.

                Several content creators lose to cheaters and manage to interview the blatant cheaters who admit to it. There are also relatively popular YouTubers whose entire channels are accusing pro players and streamers of cheating in COD and games. Lots of people assume good players are all cheating, and that it’s approved (if not facilitated) by the developers. (Which is a necessary belief for them, considering these players will also often perform very well on LAN tournaments against other pros.)

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                  That was the point of my question, to be honest. I don’t understand. Cheating in a single player game to experience it I get. Unlimited ammo, all unlocks, that kind of thing - it lets the game be played differently. But against other players it seems completely pointless from my perspective.

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      The cheating problem is off the charts. There was a really good video of someone who investigated how bad it was, and found that about 50% of players were using wallhacks. of matches will have a hacker.

      I played it for a couple months. The gunplay was pretty impressive, but the cheaters made it incredibly frustrating, and after seeing that video, I uninstalled and never looked back.

      EDIT: The video in question.

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        *50% of raids had at least 1 player using wall hacks. There is a large chunk of the player base cheating, but it is definitely not 50%.

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          It’s likely around 30% total player base, and out of ten man raid your going to have likely 1 to 3. As cheaters like to squad up. It’s very common for large cheat discords to have fuck loads of people grouping up

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        The game is very fun and the loop is quite addictive, but PvE is probably the best thing that has happened to it in a long time. The AI needs minor tweaking, but not playing against other people and cheaters is so great. Being able to play with friends makes it fun.

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      10 days ago

      I’ve also heard it doesn’t run on Linux, ironically due to it’s kernel level anti-cheat.

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      Out of a lobby of 10 people 3 likely are cheating. Every person who’s ever cheated to show videos of their games has this experience. My own first hand try at cheating shows this.

      The game literally is one of the most cheated in shooters there is.

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        I don’t understand why the game would get played at all if it was full of cheaters like this. how could that be fun? especially with something that requires as much patience as an extraction shooter

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      9 days ago

      The game has a really bad problem with incompetent developers and project leaders who have shitty moral and ethical principles, and no I don’t think they are fixing that any time soon lol

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      There isnt actually a way to make functional anticheat as long as its playable on your own device. Its pointless to try and a waste of money. The only way is banning offenders and premium/custom matchmaking.

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      10 days ago

      If you like the idea there is a PvE mode which is fine. But the AI has its own cheats and there are all the other issues mentioned in this thread.

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        9 days ago

        Even with cheats, the AI still wins sometimes. That’s how insane the AI in this game is. It’s absurd.

        Gluey and the Bois don’t fuck around

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        Till it hit steam, you have to go to a Russian website. Pay Russian company using a sketchy payment processor on a barely functional website with extremely poor security measures to use. A Homebrew janky launcher that barely works.

        Just wait for it to come to steam

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      10 days ago

      kagis

      I haven’t played it, but it sounds like it doesn’t have a replay system, which apparently has exacerbated finding cheaters.

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    Cool! Still a bug ridden mess full of cheaters with devs who are lazy bigots and refuse to make female characters because “women can’t handle war”?

    Cool! Skipping it still!

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      Last time I played I got curious hit up a buddy who cheated and grabbed walls. I haven’t used cheats in a shooter since I was 14 I’m fucking 34 now. I’ve gotten kappa twice legit and had basically quit the game over being pissed about the cheaters.

      And holy fuck playing around for a few weeks was absurd. I was mostly just questing, no farming or killing for the most part.

      But there were so many obvious cheaters that I didn’t even have issues finishing the kill quests doing a HvH only rule.

      I was worried I would mistake people who are actually good for cheaters but no. Not even remotely, it’s so absurdly obvious it’s funny.

      Honestly HvH was more fun then normal tarkov just because it actually was a level playing field. Definitely a different experience.

      Tarkov REALLY is one of the most cheated in shooters there is.

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        You got lots of downvotes, but assuming you’re earnest, the game has a reputation of being rife with cheaters. Here’s a popular video that showed how bad it was a couple of years ago: https://youtu.be/p5LfGcDB7Ek

        There’s also lots of allegations about the developers not being great people, which you can read in this thread. I have no idea about that, though. But complaints are not rare.

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    Extraction shooter market is getting crowded quick. It’s probably wise move by Tarkov devs to bank some money before Arc Raiders comes out on October 30th. I have a feeling Arc Raiders just might dominate the extraction shooter market for broad general audience. I’m sure more hardcore extraction shooter fans will stick with Tarkov but I don’t see Tarkov will appeal to the masses. I hear developers of The Division might be working on an extraction shooter too. It’s quite ironic since they accidentally stumbled onto the extraction shooter idea and just now figured out there may be a demand for the genre. There is Marathon but I have no idea what’s going on with that game. I’m not sure if Bungie or Sony knows what will happen to that game.

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    Would love a coop focused extraction shooter tbh. Payday 3 could have gone for that actually, its essentially just an economy change.

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      This is why I loved the DMZ mode of Warzone when it launched. The stronger bots were mother fuckers but there were missions to finish, so the players (all fresh from Warzone and new to having prox chat,) were mostly carefully happy to talk and often helped each other. It got pretty sweaty over the next two seasons though. After that it was kill on sight.

      A few weeks ago, soon after they spun it off to its own download apart from Warzone, someone cracked it for solo play. I’d love someone figuring out a way to let people play private servers for that.

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    I cant wait to have Tarkov on steam and play a game thats flooded with hackers, thats developed buy people who uses their admin powers to punish people that kill them.

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    9 days ago

    Tried changing my email on my Tarkov account but it was nor possible. I contacted support and they refused to change it too. I simply wanted change the email as i no longer use outlook as my mail provider. After multiple refusals i simply deleted the account instead.