Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war
www.theguardian.com
Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000
  • mhague@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    2 hours ago

    The number of people killed is actually the number of verified dead bodies; it doesn’t include people blown to pieces or buried under debris. I feel like that meaningful difference should always be presented instead of casually simplifying it to “number of people killed.”

  • Sirdubdee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    4 hours ago

    A lot of people I ask in person don’t happen to realize the size and population of Gaza compared to the state they live in. When you add that perspective, it might change their perspective.

  • NatakuNox@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    6 hours ago

    I would say 6/6 are civilians. Can’t blow up a man’s whole family and act like he’s the terrorist when he retaliates using the only means available.

  • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.worldEnglish
    50·
    9 hours ago

    This could only be ‘shocking’ because “war” is a misleading misnomer used to obfuscate the nature of the occupation.

          • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            4·
            4 hours ago

            You are incorrectly conflating two different things:

            The word holocaust existed in the English language prior to the 1930s, and was only later appropriated into the proper noun you reference to describe the Nazi’s systematic persecution and extermination of Jews, Poles, Romani and other ‘undesirable’ minority groups.

            It derives from the Ancient Greek words “whole” (holos) & “burnt” (kaustos); and was used to describe large-scale destruction, either literally by fire, or figuratively as a descriptor for widespread ruin.

            I used it intentionally to draw the attention to the similarities between the crimes that Israel are now perpetrating on the Palestinian people, to those perpetrated on Jews by Nazi Germany in the 30s & 40s.

            Modern day Israel does not have exclusive rights to the term, nor the ability to use it as a bulwark against criticism for their current barbarism.

            • FauxLiving@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              2 hours ago

              and was only later appropriated into the proper noun you reference to describe the Nazi’s systematic persecution and extermination of Jews, Poles, Romani and other ‘undesirable’ minority groups.

              Yes, that’s my point.

              After 1930 it became a proper noun. We’re not speaking Ancient Greek and it’s after the 1930s.

              I see Lemmy is filling up with people (not you, the downvote brigade that exists around politically charged topics) who conflate disagreement about minor issues with being on the other side of the argument. Nuance isn’t Ancient Greek either, but you’d think it was given the way people react on social media.

      • YappyMonotheist@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        9 hours ago

        Certainly, but that’s only because you kinda have to kill people (and threaten to continue to do so, ofc) to stop them from living where you wanna settle. 😔

  • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    8 hours ago

    There are like 10,000 Hamas members TOTAL so yah if you have 60,000 deaths then BASIC COMMON SENSE would tell you this is clearly a genocidal attack on civilians. I doubt the ratio is even 1:6 because they sure as fuck haven’t eliminated every Hamas member at this point.