• TheEntity@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Sadly look at email. Technically you can host it yourself but if you’re not one of the 15 or so big providers, good luck not being marked as spam before you even do anything.

      The real problem is with the oligarchy controlling everything, service or protocol. This is why Threads was/is dangerous.

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        And they’ve been systematically shutting down anonymous email services.

        Load up Brave with a tor connection, and try to sign up for anonymous email. When they can’t track you reliably, even the “anonymous” services require a confirmation email or phone number.

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          Man I don’t want a future where we doxx ourselves to just be on a PC. Its insane that parents think real ID for gaming is a good idea. Linux might be the only way to escape any of this in the near future.

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            They pretend it’s to protect us from illegal activity, but it’s really to protect them from whistleblowers.

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              That’s not entirely true. The push for KYC came because spam started going crazy. You have no clue how bad spam is right now. And believe me, you don’t know. Take the worst case scenario you can think of, and multiply that by 100, and that starts to describe the state of spam emails for the past decade.

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      Do protocols solve the problem of every hop in between you and the destination has to pass through what amounts to someone else’s private property? Some private servers owned by who knows who on the way between that we have no idea whether they’re inspecting every packet that comes through or not.

      Because that’s the bigger issue, and I’m not even sure it’s one we can solve, because it’s pretty important to how the internet functions.

      A protocol still has to be supported and passed through private corporations walled gardens.

      Who else remembers Comcast illegally using Sandvine to throttle bittorrent traffic specifically? Pepperidge Farm 'members.

      https://torrentfreak.com/comcast-throttles-bittorrent-traffic-seeding-impossible/

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        Do protocols solve the problem of every hop in between you and the destination has to pass through what amounts to someone else’s private property?

        Yes. End-to-end encryption solves that.

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          Not even necessarily end-to-end, just encryption. And possibly encapsulation within an already allowed protocol, like it’s extremely common with HTTP these days.

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        That’s what integrity checks are for, so that no one along the path can edit what you say before it actually gets published.

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          That’s rather missing the point, an integrity check doesn’t solve the fact that to communicate with anyone, you have to do it through giant corporations pipes.

          An integrity check doesn’t help when an ISP have straight blocked your protocols traffic, like Comcast previously did with bittorrent.

          Can we stop sucking down the preachings of an idiot like Jack Dorsey? We don’t actually have net neutrality, so it’s totally within their current rights to just block traffic they don’t like.

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            Almost any protocol can be wrapped in any other protocol. You could, say, use bit torrent by encoding the packets and embedding the data in valid png files, then transporting them over http. As long as both sides understand the wrapping it’ll work just fine.

            I’ve even seen http tunneled over DNS queries in order to completely bypass firewalls.