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Ukraine is no less European than Norway or the UK

I think in the context of Europe sure, in the context of integration into the wider Western European ecosystem no.

If Russia had invaded Norway or the UK NATO would have been engaged from minute 1 and Russians would have been exterminated like cockroaches on day 1

Poles and the Baltics have been shouting “you’re idiots” from the top of their lungs, we ignored them, considered their shouting to be the result of PTSD. Which yes I mean it is but also they were right.

Yep there were plenty of warning signs, and this is probably one of the few times (as much as it fucking kills me to say it) that Trump has been spot on:

Word for Word: President Trump Strongly Criticized Germany at Start of NATO Summit (C-SPAN) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXqZf72pAhk

If a fucking moron like Trump can spot a problem (and end up being right about it) then I think the EU is making some serious mistakes.

EU may consider replacing Russian LNG imports with those from US, von der Leyen says November 9, 2024

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/eu-may-consider-replacing-russian-lng-imports-with-those-us-von-der-leyen-says-2024-11-08/

This is a joke

tbh Ukraine was almost in a different era before Euromaidan, once they did that it cemented them as pro-west not potentially pro-west, and it’s unfortunate that as soon as it cemented it was moving away from Russia it was attacked by it, this timing was precise by Putin, it leaves it open to the fact that Ukraine hasn’t had enough time to fully integrate into the EU meaning that Europe doesn’t see it as one of its own, in the same way an attack on Italy would be seen.

For those who haven’t seen this is a bit exaggerated American style but still really good movie:

Winter on Fire: Ukraine’s Fight for Freedom | Full Feature | Netflix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzNxLzFfR5w