Today I have something very exciting to share: the Alpha release of KDE Linux, KDE’s new operating system! Many of you may be familiar with KDE Linux already through Harald Sitter’s 202…
It’s as easy as pie too; they show up right there on the boot menu: <screenshot of KDE followed by apparently random numbers>
I really don’t understand why people have this little awareness of usability. Show the freaking date normally! At least add hyphens.
We tried Dolphin and Konsole as Flatpaks for a while, but the user experience was just terrible.
Yeah I’m fairly sympathetic to Flatpak. It’s way closer to how software should be installed by users. But I have yet to actually use it successfully. Is it really ready?
YYYYMMDDHHmm is probably one of the most normal date-time formats, only slightly behind current ISO 8601. But adding hyphens for the extended format would definitely make it more readable.
It’s really not unless you’re a techie who’s used to naming files in away that promotes better sorting.
The date format this uses should match with the one you have set in your system, which for most people will be DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY in the US. Because that’s what the user is used to seeing.
If you think most people are used to seeing YYMMDDhhmmss then you are in a very tiny and very incorrect bubble lol
I’m assuming that’s a genuine question… Normally when people develop a feature they do it once and then it’s “done” and any changes to that feature have to go through the whole feature request -> it’s low priority -> wait 10 years cycle before they actually happen.
Essentially, you have to do it right first time or it might never be fixed.
Just to note, I disagree entirely. Even in commercial development, it’s the core premise of agile development to ship features early and continuously integrate feedback. Granted, lots of companies claim to do agile without actually doing it, but it’s at least not a law of nature what you’re describing.
But with this not being commercial development either way, I really don’t feel like you can make any predictions. If the volunteer that implemented this sees your bug report, they could decide to drop everything else and fix that, because they get to pick their own priorities. They might have the solution in their head right away and it doesn’t take them long at all to implement. Or someone new to the project might decide this sounds like a good issue to get started with.
It’s not a requirement to file a bug report before you comment on anything. Don’t be silly.
It’s not a requirement but if anything is silly it’s acting as if an alpha version is the final release and complaining in a random forum would change anything.
Booting to a black screen with white text, while functional, really detracts from the more professional experiences that can be had elsewhere. I know the theming support is severely lacking in systemd-boot though (which I believe this is)
I really don’t understand why people have this little awareness of usability. Show the freaking date normally! At least add hyphens.
Yeah I’m fairly sympathetic to Flatpak. It’s way closer to how software should be installed by users. But I have yet to actually use it successfully. Is it really ready?
YYYYMMDDHHmm is probably one of the most normal date-time formats, only slightly behind current ISO 8601. But adding hyphens for the extended format would definitely make it more readable.
No, it absolutely isn’t outside the tech sphere
Not for normal people.
It’s really not unless you’re a techie who’s used to naming files in away that promotes better sorting.
The date format this uses should match with the one you have set in your system, which for most people will be DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY in the US. Because that’s what the user is used to seeing.
If you think most people are used to seeing YYMMDDhhmmss then you are in a very tiny and very incorrect bubble lol
It’s an alpha release.
It’s an alpha release.
You really think they’re going to revisit this? That’s not really how software development works.
I was talking about Flatpak.
Oh my god, be more insufferable.
It’s an alpha release and you’re condemning them to death because of a naming convention.
I reserve my judgement until a final release is made.
How does it work, then? Have you filed a bug report?
I’m assuming that’s a genuine question… Normally when people develop a feature they do it once and then it’s “done” and any changes to that feature have to go through the whole feature request -> it’s low priority -> wait 10 years cycle before they actually happen.
Essentially, you have to do it right first time or it might never be fixed.
Just to note, I disagree entirely. Even in commercial development, it’s the core premise of agile development to ship features early and continuously integrate feedback. Granted, lots of companies claim to do agile without actually doing it, but it’s at least not a law of nature what you’re describing.
But with this not being commercial development either way, I really don’t feel like you can make any predictions. If the volunteer that implemented this sees your bug report, they could decide to drop everything else and fix that, because they get to pick their own priorities. They might have the solution in their head right away and it doesn’t take them long at all to implement. Or someone new to the project might decide this sounds like a good issue to get started with.
The feature (boot manager) was not developed by KDE. They rely in systemd components which are all in active development.
So did you file a bug report or are you just being negative in a forum the developers will probably never read?
Right but presumably they chose the names?
It’s not a requirement to file a bug report before you comment on anything. Don’t be silly.
I don’t know.
It’s not a requirement but if anything is silly it’s acting as if an alpha version is the final release and complaining in a random forum would change anything.
What gave you the impression that I thought it would?
Booting to a black screen with white text, while functional, really detracts from the more professional experiences that can be had elsewhere. I know the theming support is severely lacking in systemd-boot though (which I believe this is)