US immigration agents will have access to one of the world’s most sophisticated hacking tools after a decision by the Trump administration to move ahead with a contract with Paragon Solutions, a company founded in Israel which makes spyware that can be used to hack into any mobile phone – including encrypted applications.

The Department of Homeland Security first entered into a contract with Paragon, now owned by a US firm, in late 2024, under the Biden administration. But the $2m contract was put on hold pending a compliance review to make sure it adhered to an executive order that restricts the US government’s use of spyware, Wired reported at the time.

That pause has now been lifted, according to public procurement documents, which list US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) as the contracting agency.

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    I already know the answer to this, but I’m going to ask if anyway.

    How did we go from the most paranoid group of people choosing death over vaccinations bc of government surveillance conspiracies, literally storming the capital in an uprising over false rumors, and now that we have multiple confirmations of the most insane and ongoing 1984 government surveillance programs: fucking crickets?

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      It’s always projection. They always assume the other side is doing what they do or plan to do. They tell on themselves years in advance.

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        Who think that these methods and policies will never be targeted at them because they are white and so were their grandparents.

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      They never cared about surveillance. If anything they want as much as possible. They just want their guys to be in charge for it. It is like how the people who use the strongest anti-child porn language are also the most likely to get caught with the worst child porn imaginable. You notice how roblox isn’t suffering under the new laws despite the laws being explicitly worded to protect children? This is because it was always about monitoring dissidents. Regular criminals will continue to use tech to do regular crime (drug dealing, murder, theft) and a minimal precaution on their end might be sufficient to prevent them from getting caught. They will not be subject to any more new restrictions.

      But protesters? That is what they have always been for. Always.

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      Fucking crickets is tough, wrap some tape around them first so they don’t burst.

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        The fuck? How?

        “Just following orders” isn’t a valid excuse. We know this from history.

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          I never said it was.

          My point is that killing the soldier doesn’t change the orders, they’ll just find another soldier. If one soldier isn’t willing to follow orders, they’ll find another that is.

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            You were kind of making the same defense though…

            The implication was that we shouldn’t blame the soldiers because they weren’t the ones who made the decision.

            That’s not how this works.

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              No, the implication is that targeting ICE agents doesn’t solve the problem. I’m not saying that ICE agents should be immune from the law, I’m saying that the root of the problem is the orders. If some ICE agents refuse to follow orders, they’ll be replaced by those who will follow them, just like a murder will replace a gun if it doesn’t function properly.

              The focus should be on the source of the problems, which is a mix of the law and the leadership. We should certainly hold ICE agents accountable for any laws they break, but targeting them w/ violence shouldn’t be the focus.

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                If they fear actual consequences, then less people will be willing to join.

                They are literal extrajudicial fascist brownshirts that want my friends and neighbors dead. These are actual people under those masks, and they need to understand that their actions have consequences. I’m not saying people should go out and kill them, but I’m saying that they need to fear that.

                You can focus on both my dude.

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                  No, recruitment will just focus on hiring people that are okay with those circumstances, which means people with less empathy and quicker to use force. I’m not implying we should ignore illegal actions by ICE agents (we should absolutely hold them legally accountable), I’m just saying that it’s not likely to solve the problem w/o changes to the law and/or the leadership, especially given how the courts tend to give law enforcement officers a pass.

                  As people target ICE agents more and more w/ violence, the more violence they’ll use in response. Violence begets violence, and that’s not going to solve the problem.

                  What we need are lawsuits challenging the legality of their actions, and ideally criminal charges against the leadership making illegal orders. We need to pressure our representatives to change the law. We need to protest peacefully and get positive media coverage so our voices cannot be ignored. Violence isn’t going to solve it.

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        Yeah, don’t blame the brownshirts kicking teeth in, blame the government that hires them /s

        They volunteered for this, they can sleep in the pit for it in the end.

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          Sure, I get the “just following orders” criticism, my point is that killing ICE agents wouldn’t solve anything. I imagine many of them joined long before the crackdown started and are there to arrest actually bad people (i.e. cartel members) and don’t like the direction the current admin is going. There are also plenty of people who support this nonsense too.

          Regardless, attacking the people following orders doesn’t change the orders, we should be attacking the top.

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            I understand your point, but these people know what they’re signing up for and why they’re putting in the uniform every day. We shouldn’t pretend these people are in anyway innocent or not culpable for their crimes. Regardless of orders, these are people who are willingly causing pain, suffering and death to innocents.

            Fuck them. Fuck their bosses. None of them get any credit or sympathy. I don’t care if they started when ice was formed, they know what their orders are and are still there, what they signed up for is entirely immaterial. Also, ice was shit from the start, so even less sympathy from me.

            Regardless, attacking the people following orders doesn’t change the orders, we should be attacking the top.

            Making people hesitant to throw in with the brownshirts for fear of social reprisal is a perfectly valid strategy for attacking the top. Make less people want to participate in their crimes makes it harder for them to do crimes.

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              Make less people want to participate in their crimes makes it harder for them to do crimes.

              No, it just means the reasonable people will leave and it’ll attract the types who actually agree with it. There will always be more people to take those jobs.

              The real solution is changing the leadership and laws.

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                That’s a much smaller pool of people than those who may willingly go along with it but object otherwise.

                Stop giving thugs a pass for being thugs, just because their bosses are shit. You can attack both, this isn’t some kind of mutually exclusive action.

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      I read somewhere about AL being so racists because that’s where all the Nazi scientists went who started working on the space program.

      No idea if it’s true. Pretty sure the south was balls deep in slavery before that, but it does make some sense.

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    For the Democrats/liberals who think they’re leftist in the room, note that this done by Biden, how it was put on hold for review so that news spread and pacifies the anger, and how it came back stronger when you forgot about it. And now Democrats will shrug and say “Trump is in charge, we’re powerles.”

    Democrats are not your friends, they are not a lesser evil, we need a revolution.

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      Based on what has already happened, I’d definitely say Dems are the lesser evil. That’s literally what this means in this context. Still evil, just not as much as Donald dump.

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      Not defending democrats here, but it says it was halted pending reviews. I would say at least the democrats have some sense of following rules, while under the Trump administration, these were immediately lifted.

      Make of it what you will, but it’s pretty clear that following the laws/rules is a thing of the past in the US of A.

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        They have theatrics, it would have ended up the same way if Biden/Harris won. Democrats (Biden) introduced it in the first place, and your instinct is still to believe they opposed it?

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      The establishment dems still think they are playing good cop to Republican bad cop in 1990, even as the Republicans are openly playing Hitler now. Without getting new popular reform minded leadership there is no way we can take the country from this aspiring one party state.

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      Dems didn’t invent ice.

      Nor Epstein

      Nor trump.

      Voters need to take some culpability to their own mistakes here and stop blaming it on anyone else but themselves for this shit show they created.

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        ICE was created by the Homeland Security Act of 2002, which passed with overwhelming bipartisan support. 90-9 in the senate and 42 Yeas came from Dems.

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          The Democratic Leadership knew the position we were in, yet they still refused to run a popular campaign offering any real reforms or attacking anyone increasingly gouging us and ran as the status quo while the Republicans ran as reform.

          We all knew the voters did not know better. The responsibility is in the establishments corner. Three presidential shit shows in a row and they are brushing off the old Hillary Clinton excuses blaming voters as if that would justify letting them stay in control of the party.

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            Blaming dems for what republicans do is some mental gymnastics.

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              By running as they do they doom us to the Republicans. I do not see how that is hard for you to understand. Being better than the other guy is not enough to win elections, you should have realized that in 2016 at the latest, yet here we are approaching 2028 and you are still advocating for this doomed to fail policy despite being one election away from a permanently rigged system for a one-party state?

              And make no mistake it will be rigged every way it can be but 2028 we have a chance to take it from them in the succession fight. Not with the establishment leaders we have though.

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                “Doom us to republicans”

                No this is bullshit as you’re choosing to vilify one for what the other is doing. If you blame your mistake on choosing worse for yourself and blame someone for your choice it is you to blame. It’s what enablers do to protect their abuser. You are speaking like a Stockholm syndrome right now.

                This. This is why you’re rigged right now. This is all on you for not holding republicans accountable for doing what they do. Blaming dems isn’t going to save you. You’re nothing more than an idiot if you thought this victimhood bullshit was ever going to get you saved rn. Do better.

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                  You framing everyone as is critical of the opposition party as voting for the party and Power gives lie to your argument. That is an ad hominem you learned from the party in power and the opposition party.

                  And you did not answer the point, it is unanswerable so it makes sense you resort to ad hominems. By not being popular and running as the status quo in an Ever devolving plutocracy, the Democrats Doom us to Republican rule. That is evident.

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          It’s funny how one immigrant country is “securing homeland” from another immigrant country. At some point in the late XIX century US, Argentina, Brazil seemed similarly attractive directions for the “give me your tired …” thing.

          I had two books called “anthology of romantic and adventure”, pretty much only centered around sea travel, it had both poetry of a fascist Russian white movement member who was a submariner and “Tamango” by Merimee and Vysotsky’s songs and Poe’s short horror stories and Melville’s “Benito Sereno” racist story, in general a pretty equal mix of radical views of life, honestly, both the good and the bad ones.

          So - it’s mostly rather old stuff, as you might guess, and the image of all those overseas colonized lands is somehow similar and blended. Now you wouldn’t think that there’s much similarity between USA and Brazil and Argentina, LOL.

          OK, I just got carried away. Perhaps that moment when your whole country started feeling “settled” is when the bad things started accumulating (other than lynchings of blacks and lobotomies of autists, I mean). And started feeling less of a union and more of one country.

          EDIT: Forgot South Africa.

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    It has also said it has a no tolerance policy and will cut off government clients who use the spyware to target members of civil society, such as journalists

    Citizen Labs confirmed joirnalists have been targeted

    Nice of The Guardian to repeat their obvious lie without immediately calling it out. This is just NSO Group 2.0. They’re moving all the engineers over because even the US was willing to sanction NSO Group after everything they did

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    Can’t find shit about how well this works on Graphene because of their stupid names.

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        Soo basically to stay ahead of this you gotta have the newest pixel running the latest build always… that sounds expensive.

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          Doesn’t have to be the newest device if I understand the chart right. It does need to be relatively up-to-date (IMO it’s kind of silly to use GrapheneOS but not update it).

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            It looks like it says “yes if you haven’t updated grapheneOS since 2022” specifically, meaning they haven’t updated in 3y. No matter what phone is 3y out if date, I wouldn’t trust it either lol. It’s a cat and mouse game, the cat’ll for sure catch up within 3y, gotta stay ahead of them.

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            I mean imo everyone’s threat model should be at least their local police if not the national authorities. Local cops have cellebrite. Only the latest pixel is secure before first unlock on this chart.

            I’m finna go dumbphone in a Faraday bag.

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          You can buy a Pixel 7a which has two and a half years of software support remaining on Ebay for under $200.

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    It’s as if we lived in a very silent storm. (Thinking of that moment with Putin and Xi caught discussing how today one can live till 150 ; I don’t think Trump will last that much, but someone else from their crowd - easily.)

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    this just brings them on par with local LEOs. these cabinets have charging ports and run brute force attacks on pins and passcodes, at least the simplest and cheapest options do.

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    Yeah to hell when they’re belong freaking hypocrites always trying to silence the truth about killing in Gaza