They put out a post about why they did it. But basically it comes down to it being illegal where they are, and the admins don’t want to be arrested.
As much as I hate that it’s blocked, I also don’t want possibly the largest Lemmy instance’s admins arrested or dragged into a court battle. I think that would be devastating for Lemmy as a whole.
It’s understandable to fear being arrested or financially ruined if some shithead company decides to go after you.
That said, maybe it’s time I make an account on an instance that has a more cavalier attitude towards piracy.
I accidentally set up a home server running Plex/Jellyfin, and now I control all my media without paying £18 per month (and probably due to rise soon, like the US pricing) to a company that only has a handful of things I like and regularly takes away content, plus prevents account sharing.
You wouldn’t want someone else to accidentally do that, would you?
E: yes people. I get that your setup is expensive. But you don’t have to spend a lot. You can host a Plex server on an Nvidia shield with some external storage, you can buy an old crappy PC/laptop on eBay. A media server does not require beefy hardware.
Yeah i bought a small computer off of eBay, installed Proxmox and all this weird software started downloading and categorizing media. It was terrifying.
Weird. Similar thing happened to me. One day I was thinking, “Damn. These streaming services are getting too expensive. I may have to get back to sailing the high seas if this keeps up.” I shit you not, all of a sudden my home server is sucking up all kinds of movies and TV shows and streaming them to my living room. It’s like The Brave Little Toaster if the toaster were actually a Dell PowerEdge and it went on a long journey to find the master (me) as much high quality media as possible.
I host not only all the Servarr apps, but about a dozen more miscellaneous ones on an old unused workstation I stole out of the attic at my old job. It has a shitty quadcore and 16gb of ram that I cobbled together from a couple other workstations I nabbed. The thing wouldn’t even be able to run Minecraft, but it has no issue fetching media from private trackers and Usenet, and then streaming them to my other devices. The only thing I wish I could upgrade is the shitty network card, that can only handle 10mb/s. It’s not too bad, because I only let it download at night when I’m asleep anyway.
Just goes to show you can make a really good setup with whatever old PCs you have laying around. Or steal.
(For legal reasons, I’m not suggesting other people steal computers from work)
Same thing happened to me, but with an Overseerr frontend for my older parents (with my domain just routed to my house with nginx), with a backend of Sonarr, Radarr, Jackett, Unzipperr (not sure if this is the name but it’s vital)…
So many accidental automations like being able to just wishlist something on plex when I’m out and about and have it ready when I get home.
Im slowly wrapping my head around the jellyfish thing …very slowly. But lets not pretend the server space isnt the price issue. I couod spend 5 years of netflix subs to get to a decent raid protected level.
If you want to take on archiving a huge library of media, more power to you. But that isn’t a requirement. Many people use streaming downloads so that local storage is basically not required. Others download and set up services/plugins to delete episodes after they have been watched to ease storage requirements. Even if you want to keep all media, Raid is certainly a luxury, not necessity. Losing all of the media from a drive just means needing to download it all again.
And all of this is completely out of the argument of “feature parity” with Netflix. They drop shows and movies from their services all the time.
Pirating is not really much cheaper TBH…my media server, including power, has to run for something like 6-7 years without upgrades or repairs to break even with what Netflix would cost in that same time frame. It’s not about saving money, it’s about not giving it to them.
to break even with what Netflix would cost in that same time frame
Sure, if you only watch Netflix stuff, but not Disney, Hulu, Peacock, Max, etc etc etc.
But also, if you’re willing to give up a little content and a some quality, it’s cheaper than Netflix. A lot cheaper, if you insist on not having ads in Netflix.
Do you compare it to a cheap Netflix subscription, do you compare it to the 4K subscription? Do you compare it to Netflix with the multiple locations extra fee they charge now?
Do you add the cost of Disney+, Prime Video, and god-knows what else?
The costs can quickly add up.
And it’s not like you need a beefy server. I could host Plex on an Nvidia shield (which I have anyway for my TV), in which case the cost would only be that of a USB drive or external HDD, and a trivial amount of extra power.
My time also has a price…downloading movies, finding the right subtitle files, managing a VPN, managing the hardware/software on the NAS, etc. I choose to spend my valuable time on that stuff but I can totally see how lots of people say “fuck it” and just pay the monthly streaming fees.
Running a media server with bulk storage from an external HDD is just a terrible experience and recipe for issues, and doesn’t give a nice experience with a full library to select from at a whim anywhere in the world (like what streaming provides). Also, depending on library size, not even possible.
I have ~20tb of media on my server, which isn’t even that much, no chance that’ll run well in that configure you mention. It’s by no means a beefy server either, it’s a small ITX mobo in a case with a shitload of HDD bays.
yes, now I’m paying 10 times more.
Don’t mind it though, experience is better in every way possible besides occasional maintenance need, but it’s definitely not for everyone.
Could be done cheaper, but it’s tradeoffs all the way as with everything in life.
🏴☠️ (for legal reasons this is a joke)
Yarr
!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com (blocked by lemmy.world instance)
I did not know that… Does lemmyworld just like the taste of boots that much?
It’s illegal in their local jurisdiction.
Discussing it surely isn’t. It’s not like that community offers warez themselves
They put out a post about why they did it. But basically it comes down to it being illegal where they are, and the admins don’t want to be arrested.
As much as I hate that it’s blocked, I also don’t want possibly the largest Lemmy instance’s admins arrested or dragged into a court battle. I think that would be devastating for Lemmy as a whole.
It’s understandable to fear being arrested or financially ruined if some shithead company decides to go after you.
That said, maybe it’s time I make an account on an instance that has a more cavalier attitude towards piracy.
Damn I need to change server so
You shouldn’t joke about these things, man.
I accidentally set up a home server running Plex/Jellyfin, and now I control all my media without paying £18 per month (and probably due to rise soon, like the US pricing) to a company that only has a handful of things I like and regularly takes away content, plus prevents account sharing.
You wouldn’t want someone else to accidentally do that, would you?
E: yes people. I get that your setup is expensive. But you don’t have to spend a lot. You can host a Plex server on an Nvidia shield with some external storage, you can buy an old crappy PC/laptop on eBay. A media server does not require beefy hardware.
Yeah i bought a small computer off of eBay, installed Proxmox and all this weird software started downloading and categorizing media. It was terrifying.
Weird. Similar thing happened to me. One day I was thinking, “Damn. These streaming services are getting too expensive. I may have to get back to sailing the high seas if this keeps up.” I shit you not, all of a sudden my home server is sucking up all kinds of movies and TV shows and streaming them to my living room. It’s like The Brave Little Toaster if the toaster were actually a Dell PowerEdge and it went on a long journey to find the master (me) as much high quality media as possible.
I host not only all the Servarr apps, but about a dozen more miscellaneous ones on an old unused workstation I stole out of the attic at my old job. It has a shitty quadcore and 16gb of ram that I cobbled together from a couple other workstations I nabbed. The thing wouldn’t even be able to run Minecraft, but it has no issue fetching media from private trackers and Usenet, and then streaming them to my other devices. The only thing I wish I could upgrade is the shitty network card, that can only handle 10mb/s. It’s not too bad, because I only let it download at night when I’m asleep anyway.
Just goes to show you can make a really good setup with whatever old PCs you have laying around. Or steal.
(For legal reasons, I’m not suggesting other people steal computers from work)
Same thing happened to me, but with an Overseerr frontend for my older parents (with my domain just routed to my house with nginx), with a backend of Sonarr, Radarr, Jackett, Unzipperr (not sure if this is the name but it’s vital)…
So many accidental automations like being able to just wishlist something on plex when I’m out and about and have it ready when I get home.
Im slowly wrapping my head around the jellyfish thing …very slowly. But lets not pretend the server space isnt the price issue. I couod spend 5 years of netflix subs to get to a decent raid protected level.
If you want to take on archiving a huge library of media, more power to you. But that isn’t a requirement. Many people use streaming downloads so that local storage is basically not required. Others download and set up services/plugins to delete episodes after they have been watched to ease storage requirements. Even if you want to keep all media, Raid is certainly a luxury, not necessity. Losing all of the media from a drive just means needing to download it all again.
And all of this is completely out of the argument of “feature parity” with Netflix. They drop shows and movies from their services all the time.
Self-hosting media can pretty much be as cheap or as expensive as you want.
My friend plugs an external drive into an Nvidia shield and it works fine.
An old laptop from eBay works well too, with the additional benefit of essentially having a built-in UPS.
You don’t have to have a crazy setup.
Pirating is not really much cheaper TBH…my media server, including power, has to run for something like 6-7 years without upgrades or repairs to break even with what Netflix would cost in that same time frame. It’s not about saving money, it’s about not giving it to them.
Sure, if you only watch Netflix stuff, but not Disney, Hulu, Peacock, Max, etc etc etc.
But also, if you’re willing to give up a little content and a some quality, it’s cheaper than Netflix. A lot cheaper, if you insist on not having ads in Netflix.
Depends, no?
Do you compare it to a cheap Netflix subscription, do you compare it to the 4K subscription? Do you compare it to Netflix with the multiple locations extra fee they charge now?
Do you add the cost of Disney+, Prime Video, and god-knows what else?
The costs can quickly add up.
And it’s not like you need a beefy server. I could host Plex on an Nvidia shield (which I have anyway for my TV), in which case the cost would only be that of a USB drive or external HDD, and a trivial amount of extra power.
My time also has a price…downloading movies, finding the right subtitle files, managing a VPN, managing the hardware/software on the NAS, etc. I choose to spend my valuable time on that stuff but I can totally see how lots of people say “fuck it” and just pay the monthly streaming fees.
Running a media server with bulk storage from an external HDD is just a terrible experience and recipe for issues, and doesn’t give a nice experience with a full library to select from at a whim anywhere in the world (like what streaming provides). Also, depending on library size, not even possible.
I have ~20tb of media on my server, which isn’t even that much, no chance that’ll run well in that configure you mention. It’s by no means a beefy server either, it’s a small ITX mobo in a case with a shitload of HDD bays.
yes, now I’m paying 10 times more.
Don’t mind it though, experience is better in every way possible besides occasional maintenance need, but it’s definitely not for everyone. Could be done cheaper, but it’s tradeoffs all the way as with everything in life.
If I still watched TV, I the risk of me doing that accidentally is very high.
Hoist the colors