Ukraine said it took a Russian position using just drones and ground robots.

Zelenskyy said it was a wartime first, and no Ukrainian infantry was involved.

He said robots have done over 22,000 missions in three months, keeping many soldiers from harm.

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    4 days ago

    Can’t wait for one of them to be chasing me down for the crime of “thinking unfavorably about Peter Thiel”

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      If it makes you feel any better, these are all being remote controlled.

      So while you’re off from your day job of piloting the robot that hunts down dissident Filipinos, some Filipino operator is driving the drone that bombs your car for its “Impeach President Newsom” bumper sticker.

      Something Something Just Like Communist China.

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        If it makes you feel any better, these are all being remote controlled.

        Ukraine has started using some AI drones. Probably (my guess) with the AI set to “if you lose connection, try to hit any humans in this area”. So no, not necessarily.

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          Probably (my guess) with the AI set to “if you lose connection, try to hit any humans in this area”

          What could go wrong there?

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            How so? If the Ukrainians has previously determined that the area contains no civilians, then how would it be different from firing an unguided missile at the same area.

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      BAHWEEP

      YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE ONLINE DISCOURSE FAIRNESS ACT OF 2026. LIE DOWN ON THE GROUND AND PREPARE TO BE DEPORTED.

      STOP RESISTING.

      DISSIDENT NEUTRALIZED.

      WEEP-WOOP

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      Yeah… I really don’t like the changes that the Russian Invasion of Ukraine are making to war.

      Cheap Kamikaze drones, unmanned roving gun turrets, etc etc… Removing men on the ground feels like its gonna make it easier to pursue and lust for wars as these technologies continue to advance further and remove the human components.

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    Well, the future looks bright enough. We may work to death in captailist states, but at least robots will fight each other, so no need for soldiers.

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      The thing I fear is that this just becomes a ridiculously futile war of resource attrition. It all comes down to who has more metals and chips and armaments to keep throwing at the other’s pools of the same until one gives up. What a waste…

      …But then again, writing this, I realize that’s almost already how they treat human soldiers so…what will change, I wonder?

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        What will change?

        It’s easier to convince young people to hump soldiers into their partners than it is to create more rare earth elements.

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        Exactly. We’re already there with which side has more human resources. Meanwhile asymmetric warfare is an escalation of technology and the resources to produce them. Sure, you can tip the balance of power on the battlefield with very clever use of resources, but it’s ultimately a contest of who is willing to dump the most into the conflict.

        It could also be argued that technological warfare in a global economy makes resource blockades even more important. Nobody is 100% reliant on their homeland resources anymore. To effectively siege your opponent, you have to cut off everything that can fuel their ability to make war. That can be a huge perimeter in some cases.

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      Until the drones start getting used on civilians. Which is absolutely going to happen and soon.

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        It’s been happening for a good 20 years already. Do you think US drone strikes were all military targets? Do you think both russia and ukraine didn’t absolutely dronefuck multiple population centers? Do you think israel didn’t use drones to carry out its genocides? There are probably tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of dead civilians due to drone strikes already.

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      Possible. It does seem like drones fighting drones should mean less human casualties, which has both a humanitarian side and an escalation risk side.

      Then again a lot of people have thought their weapons would make war less deadly, and been very wrong, including the case of WWI-era artillery.

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        No one will give a shit about robots dying. The drones will either be attempting to war crime civillians or intercept said war crime robots.

        And drone intercept rates arent even close to that not being scary.

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          People will give a shit about the robots dying once their side starts running low.

          When shit turns into Helm’s Deep, when the robots are taking out the last of your defenses, you’ll give a shit lol.

          Think of the drones and robots less like soldiers/planes and more like a thousand points that make up a force field. As that field decays, so does your protection beneath it.

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            I think you’re overestimating the defensive capabilities we have. Drones has been so successful in warfare specifically because there is no good counter, and numbers can be used to overcome more effective countermeasures.

            Helms deep had walls which were impassable before breaching. Drones leak through defenses like a sieve.

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        They “accidentally” told the drones/robots to attack the schools and hospitals. “We would never do that on purpose”

        “Well why were the terrorists using school children as human shields!”

        I doubt it will ever stop

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          This, but also if you aren’t putting your soldiers at risk then war becomes more palatable (and thus more likely). For example, I doubt Trump would have attacked Iran if he had been quoted 1000+ American causalties in the first week.

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    So… we got two ways to go. One the robot on robot wars end up wiping us all out by exhausting all or resources and of course killing civilians. Or we take to space and have the robot wars stay on earth. Mars at least I figure. For a few at least.