• FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    No, it’s misinformation and people who uncritically repeat things without verification.

    I’ve had the game installed for years and have to manually apply updates, there hasn’t been one. e: I just checked, last update in Steam is dated 2022

    All they’ve done is make their TOS universal across all of their games.

    e: adding this from last post. TL;DR: People are spreading misinformation

    So, let’s look into the claims.

    Here’s the TOS:

    https://www.take2games.com/legal/en-US/

    There is nothing about root level access.

    In addition, if you look at the patch history for Borderlands 2 on SteamDB, you will see that the last update for the game was 4 August 2022.

    So, to be clear: There is nothing in the TOS that requires you to submit to a rootkit and there is no spyware that has been added. The comment in the OP is simply wrong.

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      He said it, root access level in the TOS of BorderLand. Not that a root kit is included, but that they allowed them self to inclid it whenever they can. That not misinformation…

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        He said it

        That not misinformation…

        It is misinformation if the things he said are not true.

        So, let’s look into the claims.

        Here’s the TOS:

        https://www.take2games.com/legal/en-US/

        There is nothing about root level access.

        In addition, if you look at the patch history for Borderlands 2 on SteamDB, you will see that the last update for the game was 4 August 2022.

        So, to be clear:

        There is nothing in the TOS that requires you to submit to a rootkit and there is no spyware that has been added. The comment in the OP is simply wrong.


        This is what happens when you simply read social media and repeat what you’ve heard without checking to see if you’re spreading misinformation.

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          I’m really curious on what actual specific steps you took to “check”. It took me about a few minutes of reading to find it.

          https://www.take2games.com/privacy/en-US/#3-sources-of-information

          We also may use internal and third-party anti-cheat technologies to detect and prevent cheating within our Services.

          Furthermore, https://www.take2games.com/legal/en-US/#10-availability specifically section 10.2

          We may provide patches, updates, or upgrades to the Services, Virtual Items, Content, or your Account that may be required for you to continue using the Services, including automatic or “in the background” updates without notice to you.

          I hope the people who upvoted your misinformation are able to see this, please think of your actions and conduct before posting multiple comments defending a company if you’re worried about misinformation.

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            That… doesn’t actually rebut anything FauxLiving said. That they may use anti-cheat, and that they may have automatic updates, aren’t the claims in question here.

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              24 hours ago

              Ummm those two would statements would in fact allow them to install a “anticheat” rookit/kernel program at any time without your knowledge…

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                24 hours ago

                Sincerely thank you for commenting. I was completely dumbfounded with @Warl0k3@lemmy.world’s statement and wasn’t sure if I wanted to waste my time with a response if it was just trolling.

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                  23 hours ago

                  If that’s all it takes to dumbfound you, I am profoundly jealous. Anyways.

                  Those aren’t the claims fauxliving was making. They claim that there is no indication of taketwo requesting root level access and they’re strictly right, there is no language requesting that permission (or equivalents) (but I doubt that would matter to TakeTwo since they could argue it’s implicit)

                  They then claim that there has been no change to the game to include kernel level anticheat, which is also true.

                  What you presented does nothing to substantiate or refute those claims, just the claims made in the OP. Fauxliving’s comment was arguably off base, sure, but substantially their points are correct.

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                    22 hours ago

                    “What you presented does nothing to substantiate or refute”

                    There is nothing in the TOS that requires you to submit to a rootkit

                    We also may use internal and third-party anti-cheat technologies

                    prepare to be even more profoundly jealous because I’m profoundly dumbfounded at this point.