• Jin@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    I hear often Nazi this Nazi that? I think it has lost meaning. Can you explain what Nazi is? Vs Nazi from like WW2?

    • Ulrich@feddit.org
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      4 hours ago

      I think it has lost meaning.

      It has. Completely. Basically what it means today is “people who disagree with me” and should be regarded as such. Unfortunately the actual nazis will fly under the radar now.

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      19 hours ago

      Some people wouldn’t know a Nazi if he was sending people to camps without trial, trying to outlaw the political opposition, fomenting a cult of personality, launching coups, oppressing the most vulnerable people, ratcheting up racist attacks, and threatening to attack Denmark.

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      19 hours ago

      As a serious answer, Musk is into modern variants of eugenics and some scary techno-authoritarian stuff he shares with Peter Theil and other Silicon Valley royalty.

      Maybe he’s a techno-neonazi? That’s just semantics.

      His alleged Nazi salute is indeed kind of a red herring. But “Nazi” is an reasonable enough descriptor for his beliefs.

      • WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world
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        19 hours ago

        Note how Jin, the Nazi Defender (not a Nazi themselves, they just defend people who are justifiably called Nazis) won’t respond to your answer.

        One feature from Reddit I liked was the ability to tag people. Or maybe that was the reddit enhancement suite. But Jin would’ve earned himself a big red “Nazi Defender” tag.

        • stopdropandprole@lemmy.world
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          19 hours ago

          you can also tag people on Lemmy, or at least I can. look for the About User menu then “Add Tag” or “Tag user” from their profile

        • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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          19 hours ago

          Nah its much simpler label than that.

          “Troll”

          The topic doesn’t matter, it more about fishing for provocation. In this case I couldn’t help myself, but… you know, don’t feed the trolls.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      21 hours ago

      If you perform a Nazi salute, you’re a Nazi.

      Musk performed TWO Nazi salutes on national television during a presidential inauguration.

      Musk owns X.

      Anymore questions? Do I need to illustrate with crayons?

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        20 hours ago

        Some would say a Roman salute 🫡 So anything else substantial? That can’t be interpreted as something else?

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          Italian here, Roman actually.

          The Roman salute has not origin in ancient history.

          It was formalized by Gabriele D’Annunzio, a sick fascist poet and writer, as a salute for his proto-fascist troops with which he occupied Fiume in modern-day Croatia, having been inspired this painting.

          So yea, the roman salute is a fascist salute, invented by a fascist, for a fascist occurrence and to call it roman is a disservice to Rome and history in general.

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              not my job and this is not the place to waste my time providing a textbook-level of evidence of what you could have researched yourself if you were willing to be persuaded, but ask your History teacher if you’re seriously asking.

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                Then why did you reply to me?

                I know what a Nazi is However people often misuse it with people they disagree with. Elon already had a lot of hate before that.

                Can a Jew be a Nazi? Are Kanye a Nazi?

                People with their beehive mentality, just echoes being what other people says. Can’t have simple discussions without people trying crucify you for asking questions.

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                  18 hours ago

                  Here’s a question: why don’t you take their advice seriously instead of being so sensitive to their manners?

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                If you can’t answer him that’s all you have to say.

                Don’t do this rigamarole of “do your own research to justify why other people use their words.”

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      19 hours ago

      The word ‘nazi’ has 100% lost its meaning.

      Might as well just be saying “I don’t like this person or group of people because they disagree with me.”