Cool?

Yeah see, not everything I do is intended to influence something. Sometimes I just stand on my morals for no other reason than they are my morals.

Assassin’s Creed 14

What the fuck there’s 14 Assassin’s Creed games? Surely they’re gonna run out of historical periods soon. It’s only a matter of time before the announce Assassin’s Creed: Unga Bunga where you just sneak around the forest as a cave man

I’ve been using Pop!_OS for gaming for a couple years now and it’s been great. It’s Ubuntu-derived like Mint, and I haven’t had much difficulty troubleshooting it, since a lot of the stuff on Ubuntu/Mint forums will work for Pop.

It’s a bunch of technobabble loosely related to his harebrained scheme to launch a fuckload of solar powered AI servers into LEO.

This used to be what Alberta was.

After your ancestors came and genocided the dark-skinned natives. But they always leave out that part huh

Brrrrrrrrrrt

It adds nothing to the conversation

Lmao what a useless comment right here

I really want you to understand that no one in this thread is out to get you

What?

I’m not asking you to feel shame, just explaining why I thought your comment was deserving of a downvote. It wasn’t intended to be personal, just informational.

I’ll be honest, I downvoted you, but because of the incredibly condescending tone, and for arguing against a point that literally no one has brought up in this post. I’m sorry you’ve run into dumbasses elsewhere that have wrongly tried to claim Steam isn’t a monopoly, but complaining about them and arguing against them in a post that they haven’t shown up in isn’t productive.

Yeah I don’t think anyone can form a good faith argument claiming Steam doesn’t have a monopoly.

The thing is, all a competitor has to do to take away Steam’s monopoly is to make a product as good or better than Steam

Mmm yes, tea and crumpets, long love the empire, God save the king ol chap

So you’re reduced to playing semantic games and trying to claim I’m a liar. You’re continuing to mischaracterize the difficulty involved in installing things on a Linux system. You’re evidently walking back your claim that there are distros/package managers that lack a graphical package manager. Your only example of a desktop distro lacking a graphical package manager out of the box (but still has the ability to install one) is Arch, a niche distro intended for advanced users with Linux experience. And you continue to stubbornly refuse to elaborate any of your points unless I pull it out of you.

Suffice it to say, I’m not convinced. Have a great day, I’m no longer taking part in this exhausting conversation.

It is miniscule, objectively. Generously, less than 2% of personal computer users have an Adobe license. The alternatives aren’t inferior, in fact in some cases (blender, DaVinci Resolve), the “alternative” I listed is actually the industry standard used instead of the comparable Adobe product. There are multiple ways to make it easier to transition away from Adobe products, and you keep just conveniently ignoring the fact that cloud versions of most Adobe products are available. It’s a bad example, and does nothing for the argument you’re trying to make.

Can you share some distros/package managers that don’t have a GUI available? You originally claimed there were distros where a graphical package manager wasn’t an option. Are you walking that back now, or can you actually substantiate that claim?

Can you share some distros intended for desktop use that don’t come with a graphical package manager?

I’m sorry you found Nobara’s package management tools confusing. Is that the experience you’re basing this whole opinion on?

Obviously Adobe products aren’t going to be found in a Linux package manager. Not sure why you’re even mentioning it though, because

• the number of people that actually require an Adobe product is miniscule compared to the number of PC users, so it’s an extreme edge case
• Alternatives like Gimp, Krita, Inkscape, Darktable, kdenlive, DaVinci Resolve, Blender, Foxit, Okular, LibreOffice Draw, Scribus, etc. etc. etc. exist and are more than good enough to satisfy most people that use Adobe products
• OS-independent cloud versions of most Adobe products exist

Can you share some distros/package managers that don’t have a GUI available? Every flavor of Linux I’ve used in the past 5 years has had a GUI for the package manager, and 9 times out of 10 there’s a shortcut in the taskbar or on the desktop by default after installation.

My gaming PC is running PopOS. When I was on version 22.04, I used PopShop exclusively to install and update my software, and it worked great. Since upgrading to 24.04, PopShop has been replaced by the Cosmic Store, which is even easier to use. Both were pre installed and pinned to the taskbar out of the box.

I have Nobara installed on another desktop. I forget what the package manager GUI on that one is called, but it was very similarly easy to use, and it was also pinned to the taskbar (or whatever the KDE-taskbar-equivalent is called) out of the box.

Hell, even Arch has options for graphical package managers, they just don’t come pre installed, obviously, since it’s Arch.

I turn it on, I click the program I need to use, I use the program.

If the program isn’t there, I open the software manager, I search for the program, click install, and open the program.

It’s really that easy.

You’re beginning to sound like a broken record now though, because the only things you’ve brought up are

• usability, which you have failed to substantiate, instead opting to just plug your ears and go “nuh uh” to anyone who disagrees or asks for examples
• availability of certain proprietary software/hardware interfaces, which is a non-issue either because an OS-independent cloud version of that software exists, an equivalent, non-proprietary version of that software exists, or is an edge case that affects a tiny fraction of users

I’d love to continue this discussion if you want to bring up anything else, but if this is all you have, I’m not gonna waste any more of my time with you.

I didn’t simply dislike your reasons. Your reasons are invalid, untrue in 2026.

I’ve been using Linux at work for well over a decade, and at home for at least 5 years on my gaming PC. I have watched and experienced various Linux distros going from poor Windows replacements to very serviceable Windows replacements.

On my home gaming PC, I have only run into two issues that I used a terminal to solve. And one of those I could have solved with a package manager because the solution was just to reinstall a few things that had gotten corrupted.

Again, I recognize and accept that there are some things Linux still can’t do. But my whole point is that’s ok, because it can still function as a replacement for Windows without those things, for a huge chunk of the people still using Windows. It’s weird that a person that’s used a Linux laptop for the past 3 years doesn’t recognize that.