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Cake day: June 15th, 2023

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  • I assume this one line is the entire script. At least from what you provide, it should be impossible not to have the rest of the string passed over to apt. First make sure the string is build correctly and output with echo. For testing, replace the apt install with echo, to see if the entire argument line is build correctly… I don’t use apt, so cannot test it here.

    BTW is it correct to put the file extension “.deb” when installing packages from repository? Maybe this causes an issue. Try it without the extension.

    Another Edit. What happens if you run the command apt install 1.6.5/opensnitch_1.6.5_amd64.deb 1.6.5/python3-opensnitch-ui_1.6.5_all.deb in the terminal directly? Is this the correct command at all?


  • 34 days without booting? Are you using a Debian system and don’t update often? You should, for security patches at least. I’m on an Arch based system and update every day. Sometimes there are updates that require a reboot, so all services are up to date. My system is often up for a few days, sometimes even for a week.

    Small tip, logging out and in will have a semi clean environment without a full boot. That means the uptime won’t reset.




  • TL;DR: My desktop PC uses EndeavourOS and the only immutable experience I have is SteamOS 3. I can’t say one approach is better than the other, but I like having the newest software and packages in my system. And that’s best provided with a rolling release. I also think that sandbox systems like Flatpak and the several alternative installation methods besides the system package manager is an added complexity for a new user in Linux.


    I don’t mind using an immutable system (BTW another term that describes this kind of system is Atomic, which comes from Fedora), as long as it is designed around it and works well. The only immutable system I use is on my Steam Deck with the pre-installed SteamOS 3. My generic desktop personal computer is using an Archlinux derivative EndeavourOS with a rolling-release, where I have much greater control over the system.

    Both systems have their strengths. I don’t think that my mutable and always up to date system is breaking more often than the other system. The best part of it is, its always up to date and I get the newest applications. I try to not use much Flatpaks or AppImages (but do for certain apps, where I have no other choice for ease of use). And an immutable system naturally basically asks me to use Flatpaks and other user space package formats that is not handled by the distribution itself.

    Even though I have some thoughts on it, I am not excluding one approach. Many say that immutable distributions are good for new users to Linux. I think this adds some complexity and problems, because they need to use sandbox systems like Flatpak. And that’s if they know that they are using Flatpak, because sometimes the app distribution gives options like AppImage and custom installer scripts as well. This is all confusing for someone who just starts with Linux. On top of it, the sandbox of Flatpak requires some additional setup and configuration for some apps, to access certain hardware or filesystems in example.

    All in all, I tend to like the traditional “mutable” distribution system as a rolling release model the most. But I’m an not excluding any other and would use a good “immutable” one; I just didn’t try any other than the one in my Steam Deck.





  • Why is it a lie if people don’t want to switch, because their games are not there yet? Maybe someone plays a lot League of Legends, or Fortnite, or Valorant, or Destiny 2 or whatever [insert your game here]. They don’t know what awaits them in Linux and think its a similar operating system without the bullshit of Microsoft. Lot of people would happily switch, if they have the courage to install it themselves (with burning iso or boot disks). If the games are the most important thing, then its hard to argue to switch, if their games are not working in Linux. Because doing so would mean leaving friends behind too.

    Its not a lie. My brother is in a similar situation. He purchased a Steam Deck in a situation where he was thinking about getting a laptop. First it was nice, but then more and more he could not play the games he wanted to, besides a few software compatibility issues like Discord. Now the next PC he purchased (I build it for him) has Windows. Windows bugs him, but its a necessary evil. He will switch, if his games are working in Linux and if he can be confident that future games he want to play will work on Linux as well.