Problem with this comparison is that family and house are different. And it cannot be extrapolated to a country because of the sheer size of it.

Yeah but problem is Ukraine cannot say this after burning through so much of US money.

It is not capitalism. It is robbery or extortion. But what is the alternative at this point? Let more people die?

Good step towards peace. This shit has to end now. Too many people have died.

Please don’t hold your breath, you will die. I most certainly can say that.

Guarantees from US and Europe I mean. How can you take guarantees from your invader. But guarantees from them have also failed, so yeah I agree. But there has to be some sort of end to this massacre.

Russian war production is more than 3 times of whole Europe. They can bear some losses. Mineral rich land is much more valuable than weapons.

True. It was agreed that everyone will protect Ukraine. Russia was a bitch and broke it. What is stopping others from protecting Ukraine? Supplying weapons is not the end of their duty. They should have sent soldiers to fight, but they won’t. Because they don’t want their people to die. It has been mare a proxy war.

What does that have to do with this?

Ceding land is something which is going to happen whether you like it or not and whatever replies my comment gets. It is just the real, on ground situation

Sure, whatever @FelixCress@lemmy.world agrees to. I don’t want him to be mad

There is a slight difference between a family and a country.

It can happen but nothing so far has happened here. It has been more than 3 years

Glad you like it.

Ahh yes, I am drowning in money. Putin himself wrote me a cheque today. I am not cashing it, I will send it to you.

Hi Felix! I was missing you. I have commented a lot since your last reply, make sure to downvote and reply to each.

He wants the land I agreed myself. I don’t think he wants genocide.

An all-out surrender is not smart. There has to be a ceasefire and then diplomatic solutions sought for. As much as I dislike Trump, he is correct in saying that there will be land swaps. Ukraine has to get guarantees and security measures in exchange, without it there should be no deal.

Yes, because war is won by winning or losing assets. Casualties are a side thing. It is fucking sad but it is what it is.

The primary one is that they already had a deal with Russia and Russia broke it in 2014 and then again in 2022. So why would anyone believe that another deal would stick?

Agreed, it is not wise to just give up land. It has to be accompanied by solid security measures and guarantees. As I said in another comment, there has to be a diplomatic solution after a ceasefire.

They’d just take time to regroup and be back a few years later.

So can Ukraine. Ukraine can also make use of the time.

That’s like making a deal with a burglar saying that they can keep what they stole as long as they get out of the house.

Yes, because he has a gun to my head. I will gladly let them take my whole house if that happened.