The mit license allows a mix of public and commercial code run by the same company, with minimal legal issues. One can use other tactics I am sure, but this one seems good when the commercial code absolutely needs the public code .

I think some confusion here can be resolved by stating this is anti foss, taking advantage of foss, it is capitalism taking advantage of having a good code base while making sure any contribution from outside the company is minimized. At the same time it gives my company absolute control over the private part.

Usually get into arguments here! I’m not defending it, but am saying open source would be less without.

For our use case, this makes the most sense.

I’m not at all sure about the larger trend you noticed, but I know a non trivial number are doing it for the same reasons

Speaking for myself, it’s because future monetization can be easier under mit when using a foss utility and private code.

My project would not exist at all unless there were ways to make money off it.

True, others can also use that same code too, in the exact same way, but that requires quite the investment, and those of us that are doing this are banking on not getting the interest of a monopoly in that way. We are competing against other small businesses who have limited resources.

At the same time the free part can get a boost by the community.

I comment a lot in politics here, and am sometimes an ass, so cannot name this project

He is not wrong. Unless people start to take steps , the dependency of tech will be used to chain most of us. Granted, these chains will be the kindest and gentlest chains seen in a long time.

Social revolution lives on in decentralized services, like this; the true battles will be later though. This year is a mild warm up. I can’t imagine the challenges that await many

I know well enough to quit here lol.

I’m more tickled than mad at your stuff, but even I know when I’m in a losing situation

Or maybe you are making some assumptions and really like rust; while lacking experience in memory management.

I’m not saying anything about my code; but there are literally dozens of strategies you probably don’t know about that are used in a dozens of ways, if not hundreds, by millions of coders.

I like rust well enough, but it manages memory based on opinions by some people. These opinions have trade offs. You are not familiar with that, and are attacking me.

This reinforces my own opinions of people who push rust.

I think it will grow! One day it will compete that way

I am happy that you like rust.

I also would like to point out there are many ways to manage memory. Not all of them are badly designed and hacked code done by stubborn people who just need to be saved

I made no such claim about c nor am I saying it should be used in general, if you read what I wrote more carefully, I am actually against all that

Ignoring your rudeness now. It’s more like I’ve seen the same wheel invented a lot of times and can recognize most tech are basically equally functional.

I used to make fun of cobol because it has no stack; I often wondered why such a language was ever popular, why it had so many lines of code. Now, I know there was a reason it worked, why it still is used, and can appreciate how people work with it.

I’ve made a couple of my own languages nobody uses; so new and different languages do not overawe me as much.

Any popular language, new or old, works well enough with it having strengths and weaknesses. Some have superiority in their libraries or ecosystems and not the core. It’s ok to choose a language based on this or that. It’s ok to mix and match languages together in one project because it’s how they talk together which makes it work, and in the larger scope of things it really does not matter which is used.

I personally have nothing against any language, including rust.

It’s a general trend to try to fit a specific language everywhere that irritates me, I tend to see that as a software nerd’s religion or politics instead of how much better that language is.

And so, based on the above, is why proponents of their holy language irritate the crap out of me. And rust is certainly not the first to do that

Some old fashioned c++ and c developers, like me, feel more entitled to entrench more, and see Rust as a political movement, and not a serious tool.

I’m fairly reactionary against adding more Rust to stable projects. While I’m sure at some of that is me being old and set in my ways, the other gives people like me talking points, which may or may not help.

Is there… is there a go fund me the attackers? Asking for my cousin’s ex girlfriend’s dog

One of the first of many.

I think this will be rarer now than later though. It’s really early days and the detained probably are still being treated mostly in the rule of law. Not that the arrests would stand up to legal scrutiny. But once arrested will probably not be too harmed physically.

Later, of course, this will change. If we are lucky it will only be some victims, and not hundreds of thousands

All I know is that if I can blame the average Russian, German, Brit, Serbian, Hutu etc for bad things in history. No force on earth is going to have me give Americans a pass. Especially after the majority of them supported the wars in the Middle East.

It’s a genocide, the clues are everywhere. It’s not an American thing that makes it unique. There are shitty people everywhere mixed in with decent folks.

And it’s fine to not protest or just be quiet. Sometimes that is all one can do. It’s ok to think one is powerless to oppose such things. This is the case for many.

But actual support that is voluntary? No

And I think there is some overlap between our two views. Many of the people who I would give a pass to, are many of the people you talk about

No doubt about the genocide.

Maybe I am unfairly judging Americans who support Israel or look down on Palestinians.

But I have so much anger about that I cannot be impartial. Most Americans have had hints they ignore, deliberately. I can’t forgive that

I think it’s all part of the child abuse cycle; people manipulated and humiliated while young, without a person to speak up for them, tend to support these types of things. And a lot of their children will too.

But those who had more nurturing and love tend to not support ideologies which dehumanize, and can recognize more when something promotes senseless violence. They are also more decent adults.

It mostly works on people already bigoted and hateful, I think. A decent person may have inaccurate picture, but indecent people support it more

Brainwashing or just nasty people?

Not yet another protocol invading me brain!?? For all I know the different pattern of signal does things to my delicate nets.

I already had to contend with the fridge and garage door

The bad part is four things:

• the op either deliberately or legitimately did not understand what was being said
• the vast majority of the comments just read what the op wrote and not what was said
• having this many comments out of whack with this many upvotes gives ammunition to the bigots
• this is a tech forum ??