Would a decade in prison be a tariff? If not, maybe the execs would prefer that, rather than make the company pay the fine. Won’t someone think about the company?

journalctl -xb-1 where 1 is last boot, 2 is boot before that, etc.

Fedora’s KDE is bulletproof on any of my installed systems (8 or 9 of them, completely different hardware including AMD). Now Kubuntu, on the other hand, has always been a shitshow, I’ve never had it work right for more than a couple days at a time.

Every time I’ve been to Cuba I show up in the airport and basically have a car rented, maybe first night in a hotel. Then we drive wherever we feel like and usually pick up a hitchhiker or two that will have a “sister” that has a room for rent.

It has almost always been clean, friendly, cheap, and a good breakfast. Rinse, repeat. I love travelling like this and have generally done this everywhere I’ve gone in the third world. Apparently the US doesn’t even measure up to third world.

Speed.

Atomic distros update in a monolithic block and if it fails, it’s as if no part of it occurred.

Immutable distros have a readonly filesystem and you can’t change any part of the system without explicitly remounting the files to write, then doing your updates. It’s not necessarily atomic when that update occurs, either.

You don’t need to layer or containerize applications you install in an atomic system, you can install an application as normal with the system package manager, it just has to complete successfully to be installed, then it becomes part of the overall A/B update system.

Immutable distros need to containerize the installations, or use layering to apply applications to the underlying RO filesystem, which makes installing software rather a pain in the ass at times.

OP keeps using the word “atomic” but the questions and explanation are more about “immutable”. And my answer to them about why wouldn’t I use an immutable system is pretty much the last, installing/updating/troubleshooting non-system software is a pain in the ass. On a dev station, it’s a nightmare.

Oh, yah, that guy that shocked Chile by accusing sex abuse victims of slander

Well, that’s hardly a good excuse for pawning JD Vance off on some flunky. Seriously, popes these days…

I wonder if OP and about 3/4 of the people in here understand the difference between atomic and immutable.

I remember building the kernel with the NE2000 drivers and having a network card for just installation and getting the 3com or RTL driver source over to the new install, then compiling those drivers, installing them, and downing the system to put the proper card in. There was a very small subset of sound cards and video cards that worked reliably. The notion that Linux was the OS where hardware just worked out of the box was ludicrous.

The DEs were pretty horrible and the software to use on them was scant. So desktop Linux was a pipe dream. I used Linux entirely as a security/server appliance. I built a couple hundred iptable/ipchains firewalls for businesses out of recycled pentium type desktops until hardware firewalls became a thing, it was fairly lucrative for a while there.

Yes, I imagine there will be a rush to spend a trillion or two setting up infrastructure in a country that can’t keep it’s trade policy consistent for 45 minutes in a row.

Ha, I still use rods for certain things.

Not as confusing as Debian though.

I had a few weird bugs with Aurora in container management, especially Distrobox. Maybe fixed, but honestly the installation quirks of an immutable distro just piss me off.

After a decade of Arch, I was ready. Moved to Nobara and then vanilla Fedora with KDE. I think it was definitely the right move for me, I haven’t found anything I couldn’t install that I used to have in Arch. No regrets.

Can we add Israel?

8GB of RAM on a laptop today is f-ing ridiculous.

If Apple didn’t try to make 400% markup on their underpowered trash, it would probably just cost what it costs now. Except the child slave labor part would go away.

I mean, it’s bcachefs. It’s far from production ready.