


“The future ain’t what it used to be.”
-Yogi Berra





Iran: So anyways I started blasting


Iran: “hue hue hue”


Microwaves are easier to manage


So anyways I left the door to the microwave open.


That was an especially good read. It reminds me of something akin to summoningsalt, but better researched. Have you considered turning these into video content?


I did dig through the data and I would caution against using what they’ve posted as is. Its all slop. Best bet would be to pull the PDFs and parse or data entry them directly.


You are more than welcome to as well.


It’s not just any connection.
They’re relying on an llm for all the structural components of the analysis. They haven’t done the thinking of how these parts come together and what would actually be convincing.
This looks like a Claude code job where they sent the agent at the task and the agent cooks for a while to create something which would be convincing to people who don’t actually know better.
Look I develop a lot of analyses. Llm as a coding assistant when you know what both right and wrong code looks like, they can be useful, if they don’t to overcook everything. They’ll help you build functions to build parts of things. But if you are relying on them to do the thinking, you are utterly fucked and there is no there there.
And with regards to the vegan metaphor. Firstly, while I can understand it being annoying, I really don’t give a shit. This isn’t a personal choice thing, this is a “the very structure of society is being impacted by this” thing.
I’m all for people wanting to do these kinds of analysis and it’s totally valid for some aspects of an llm to play in your work flow. But if we let just sloo like this through, we’re utterly fucked


Nothing, Forever: Silicon Valley Edition


Mark the thread. My record stands and and disagreeing typically has ended with those being in the wrong side of things.
I’m not here to tell you things pleasurable to your senses.


I don’t think I am. Just mark the convo and come back to it.


I’m gaming out the realistic consequences of what a law will mean. It has nothing to do whatsoever if you approve if these companies or not to try and understand the consequences of what will happen if a law like this passes. You don’t get to pick or choose if the speech is from an LLM or a company that gets limited or from an individual. There is no difference from a legal perspective.
And this law and approach to limiting speech to “protect people” from the stupid consequences of their own action, they aren’t new. And we already know the consequences. Large corporate entities will just get around them or pay an inconsequential fine, and individuals will have their rights curtailed as a result
The entire thread here is falling for an incredibly obvious astroturfing campaign because they associate LLMs with big bad corporations and the real consequences these bad companies have wreaked. But limiting free speech on the internet won’t stop them, what it will stop is our ability to communicate and resist them.


You aren’t going to get to have it both ways. I promise you, what you are advocating for is such a profound disaster and this whole thing is being astroturfed by tech companies to goad you into limiting your own speech.


Wikipedia, Google, chatgpt etc are not legal authorities or legal professionals.
Yes. And neither are LLMs or their derivatives.
The reason it’s dangerous to get legal or health information from a chatbot is the same reason you wouldn’t want to randomly trust reddit.
And yet people do, and we accept that as a necessary consequence of maintaining free speech as a principal.
The exact arguments being accepted in this thread are the same which led directly to crackdowns in Hungary, China, and Russia.
If you are okay with limiting and regulating LLMs as a form of speech, I promise it’s your speech which will end up limited, and a very small number of companies will control all speech on the internet. You should stop.


Let’s swap out a chatbot with a sloptuber on YouTube making up stuff about sovereign citizen nonsense. How about then.


That’s a totally irrelevant comparison. There is no equivalent publisher of the law to the US House of reps. Nothing the Wikipedia publishes has legal bearing; Everything the house of Reps publish does have legal bearing.


I promise you, the result of this will be unlimited free speech for corporations and their LLMs, with limited and regulated free speech for you. Save or favorite the comment.
It’s the same “protect the children” anti free speech advocacy in a different wrapper, but more appealing to this audience because “llm bad”.
They’re using your emotional response to not liking LLMs as a tool to trick you into giving away your rights.