Think the “right to repair” conversation. When you buy something, their argument is you don’t own it. You can’t alter it, you can’t do with it what you want for your own use. It’s theirs and you’re only allowed to look at it in its current form. If it’s broken? It’s your problem. If you fix it, we’re gonna make it your problem. That kinda thing.

I wasn’t making a 1:1 comparison. I was saying that “but look how many people have been lifted out of poverty!” argument is a capitalist argument, because it completely ignores the reality of the situation. Have people been lifted out of poverty by outsourcing? Of course. But that doesn’t negate the core problem.

As the other person mentioned, outsourcing manufacturing TO china is largely responsible for the manufacturing boon there. And then rich Chinese capitalists (though they use the cover of not being called capitalists) became rich middlemen between “western” businesses and the cheap Chinese labor. So outsourcing has absolutely contributed to it. You and the American capitalists are looking at the same thing, one is crediting American executive innovation, the other is crediting the CCP.

Capitalists use the same exact argument for why outsourcing labor to the poorest countries is actually a good thing. For real, I’ve argued so many right wingers saying “searching for the cheapest labor actually helps the worlds economy because you’re lifting those poor people of _____ out of poverty! It doesn’t matter that it’s only pennies/day, because to them, that’s a lot of money!”

Pretty goddamn gross behavior.

“Could be.”

Jeez, I hope they make a determination soon! Because, like, it would be kinda nice if they would do something about it. Kick out the only two countries denying the fuckin genocide, pass resolutions, send peacekeepers, shout the goddamn genocide from the rooftops. And then the ICC could send people to arrest the perpetrators AND the enablers, shut down the fuckin war profiteers selling the weapons, nationalize their fuckin businesses, send these fucking monsters to The Hague and then the fuckin graveyard.

Very limited compared to his predecessors.

How do you figure that? The multi-decade expansion of executive powers coupled with the increasing politicization of the judicial system and the kowtowing of the entire right wing in the US as well as his clear predilection for overstepping the already increased power he’s legally given make the opposite true.

Back then (like, a few years ago, really), the idea was that the tipping point was far off.

When I was a kid (I’m mid 30s), we heard “if we don’t make changes over the next few decades, a couple hundred years into the future the world will start to become more hostile.”

A few short years later, it was “the coming generation will need to make changes or we will be leaving a world much less inhabitable for our children’s children.”

That very quickly turned into “this is happening right now.”

The talk of 1.5c warming was lifetimes off. And here we did it while the fuckin boomers are still clinging to power (in the US anyway).

Yeah, it is absolutely crazy how much the tide has shifted with trump’s reelection. These so-called “woke” companies (it was always performative, but they performed for the more just side) have all turned 180 and dropped to their knees to kiss the ring.

And this is because of the very real feeling that trump will abuse his power and unconstitutionally stay in office. The guardrails seem to have come down, and these fuckers are rushing to get on the fascist’s good side.

That should alarm everyone, so I’ll say it again: these companies are positioning themselves on the side of fascism because they don’t think we can stop them anymore. They are making business decisions that bolster fascists because there’s a fuckin dollar in it.

With the power of these fucking megacorps behind the fascist movement, it’s like sticking a rocket engine on its ass.

Plenty of creators I watch have links instead of coupon codes. So it’s not just broadly one way

Yeah, when people say “imagine being murdered only for ____ to happen” isn’t a literal statement that these people, now dead, care about these things.

Just like the dead don’t care about someone spitting on their grave. It’s for the living. See what we’re saying?

Dude, with how much annexation is going on in the world right now, and how much that piece of human shmegma loves to pretend to be tough like his dictator idols? Things could very well become a dick measuring contest between superpowers.

I dunno. Because when creators are pushing those affiliate links, they’re offering discounts. That’s why their users go there. And if honey was giving them a bigger discount, I’m sure that’s not illegal. But if it was just poaching the 10% 94 whatever the creator was already offering, giving them still 10%, but taking that “last click” because it checked?

Who knows, the company is bigger and has PayPal at its back. So might makes right in US law. I’m sure that will be the outcome. But I’ve been surprised before.

Pure fucking spite and vinegar.

I mean, is it saving users money though? It’s not, the charge is that it’s just taking other affiliate code out of the link and replacing it with its own. And just doing it to small creators? I don’t know that much about it, maybe that last part isn’t true. But it’s not saving them money that’s the problem, but replacing affiliate links with their own. And they’re saying that it’s just that they were the “last click,” even if it was from an affiliate site. Meaning they probably put it in their code somewhere to briefly load honey looking for “deals,” meaning they were the last one to redirect the click and then they get the money.

Will be interesting to see how they were doing it.

Oh, have they been hiding it? Seems pretty goddamn apparent to me.

Or the next one