Sadly, almost certainly not going to happen. Maybe a “cost of doing business” fine…

Video games used to be about fun.

Couldn’t have said it better myself!
All the weird, off the wall, “who cares, we hope it makes money, but we’re doing it anyway” feel is gone. Get a bit from the indie space, but a lot of gaming feels like “what can we put out that’ll get us literally all the money?”

Be fun to see how they try to maliciously comply. Funnier to see how they get slapped around by the EU!

The Sims isn’t even as silly as The Sims anymore. Busted out Sims 1 a few months ago, that shit is fucking bonkers. Absolutely nuts. It had a daring whimsey that games just don’t really have anymore.

taps nose

This

This place is not a place of honor.

Of course not. That went away when you decided to start dropping the letter U from words. Like Honour…

Dope! Now to find time to actually play games…🤔

William SRD on YT does a lot of masquerade universe games reviews.

This one is titled: The Werewolf Game That’s Scared of Itself | Werewolf: The Apocalypse - Earthblood

The sad reality is that the masquerade universe is insanely deep, incredibly rich, and almost never gets a game that does it justice. Redemption and Bloodlines were by far the best games in-universe…and even they don’t really do the material justice.

Ok. Very little of that actually made sense to me.

I’ll give P1 a go first then? 🤷 Not a stranger to jank mechanics and weirdness. Grew up playing DOS RPGs after all.

Fair enough! Should I try and muscle on through the jank in P1, or skip it and go straight to P2?

So THAT’S why he didn’t want to get security clearance?

I hated it too. Not for any of the valid reasons you have though…

We didn’t have a PC powerful enough to play Myst. So I’d have to go play it at the library and remember to bring my floppy so I could have my save. But the library’s copy had a scratch on the disc, and it would always freeze/crash half way through. Hit that point twice, and I’ve never played it since…

I own P1 & P2. They’re in my list of games I really need to get around to playing. I’ve had em for years… 🤦

Is that all.

Nope, see the second sentence of the comment you’re replying to:

Game Overlay was just one of a long list of things shoved down my throat by M$ that eventually culminated in my wiping my windows partitions, and fully moving to Linux.

because why else would you go to a whole other post to “prove a point” about downvoting?
It wasn’t you (you claim)

I do claim. I have an alt, didn’t downvote you there either. Was just pointing out that you were also making assumptions. And it’s all comments in the same thread, hardly me going to an entirely different post to prove a point.

We will not get the benefits of Generative AI if we don’t 1. deal with the problems that are coming from it, and 2. Stop trying to shoehorn it into everything. And that’s the discussion that’s happening here.

I agree. And while I personally feel like there’s already room for it in some people’s workflow, it is very clearly problematic in many ways. As I had pointed out in my first comment.

I’m not going to even try to justify to you what I said in this post or that one because I honestly don’t think you care.

I do actually! Might be hard to believe, but I reacted the way I did because I felt your first comment was reductive, and intentionally trying to invalidate and derail my comment without actually adding anything to the discussion. That made me angry because I want a discussion. Not because I want to be right, and fuck you for thinking differently.

If you’re willing to talk about your views and opinions, I’d be happy to continue talking. If you’re just going to assume I don’t care, and don’t want to hear what other people think…then just block me and move on. 👍

and here you are, downvoting my valid point

Wasn’t me actually.

valid point

You weren’t really making a point in line with what I was saying.

regardless of whether we view it as a reliable information source, that’s what it is being marketed as and results like this harm both the population using it, and the people who have found good uses for it. And no, I don’t actually agree that it’s good for creative processes as assistance tools and a lot of that has to do with how you view the creative process and how I view it differently. Any other tool at the very least has a known quantity of what went into it and Generative AI does not have that benefit and therefore is problematic.

This is a really valid point, and if you had taken the time to actually write this out in your first comment, instead of “Tell that to the guy that was expecting factual information from a hallucination generator!” I wouldn’t have reacted the way I did. And we’d be having a constructive conversation right now. Instead you made a snide remark, seemingly (personal opinion here, I probably can’t read minds) intending it as an invalidation of what I was saying, and then being smug about my taking offence to you not contributing to the conversation and instead being kind of a dick.

🥵🥵🥵💦

Ok? If you read what I said, you’ll see that I’m not talking about using ChatGPT as an information source. I strongly believe that using LLMs as a search tool is incredibly stupid…for exactly reasons like it being so very confident when relaying inaccurate or completely fictional information.
What I was trying to say, and I get that I may not have communicated that very well, was that Generative Machine Learning Algorithms might find a niche as creative process assistant tools. Not as a way to search for publicly available information on your neighbour or boss or partner. Not as a way to search for case law while researching the defence of your client in a lawsuit. And it should never be relied on to give accurate information about what colour the sky is, or the best ways to make a custard using gasoline.

Does that clarify things a bit? Or do you want to carry on using an LLM in a way that has been shown to be unreliable, at best, as some sort of gotcha…when I wasn’t talking about that as a viable use case?

Oh, and it also hallucinates.

This is arguably a feature depending on how you use it. I’m absolutely not an AI acolyte. It’s highly problematic in every step. Resource usage. Training using illegally obtained information. This wouldn’t necessarily be an issue if people who aren’t tech broligarchs weren’t routinely getting their lives destroyed for this, and if the people creating the material being used for training also weren’t being fucked…just capitalism things I guess. Attempts by capitalists to cut workers out of the cost/profit equation.

If you’re using AI to make music, images or video… you’re depending on those hallucinations.
I run a Stable Diffusion model on my laptop. It’s kinda neat. I don’t make things for a profit, and now that I’ve played with it a bit I’ll likely delete it soon. I think there’s room for people to locally host their own models, preferably trained with legally acquired data, to be used as a tool to assist with the creative process. The current monetisation model for AI is fuckin criminal…