I suggested the Catholics because they just did it, but that idea seems to appreciated by autocrats and fascists worldwide from China to the US. Here in the EU we are hypocrites: we do it “for the children” to make it palatable to the general public that will never dare to oppose to that excuse. “If you are against this, you are with the pedos” is a frequently used argument.

Obviously porn will not disappear from Internet, and there is no regulation that can achieve that, but the goal is not porn. The goal is to make it harder for a child to access scientific information about his sexuality while growing up, or for an adult to access historical information about what fascism really meant. Things like that are the real targets.

Because ignorance is a fertile ground to cultivate idiot voters.

I guess UK, but it may come to the EU soon since the Catholics are trying to do the same, the right-wing parties hope for the censorship of “adult” topics spanning from gender issues to history, and the left is sitting on their thumbs.

I haven’t read it anywhere. It’s just how it is. why do you think this is not the case?

So you are saying that you have first hand information to state that “the EU consists of several different communities, with different cultures and different thinking”. Who are you? A sociologist who studied the EU for the past two decades?

I’m asking because it’s completely in contrast with my first hand experience. I lived and worked in a few countries besides my original one and I found that the actual differences are more limited to what people eat for breakfast, what stereotypes they have for other countries, and the quality of the services one gets.

Basically what the ECR and the Patriots say

well their dose is not healthy

So where do you stand? With Farage cherry picking what you like of the Union?

as I see this would either need voluntary high cooperation of most countries, which would be a good thing (but not in the sense of imposing my country’s laws on your country because your country hosts servers of interest)

The cornerstone of the EU is the free market that means having a company from Spain able to do business in Germany. To achieve that, it is essential to have common rules and common standards just like it’s essential to eliminate barriers. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The UK tried, and now they are out.

or a united states of europe that would basically replace each country’s political system with a top-down system as the other user said, where there are no local elections for the ruling party anymore, or much less meaningful

Maybe you didn’t notice, but the European elections are already much more important than the local elections since the internal political economy is largely controlled by the EU. Your government can (for now) play around civil rights, manage pocket money, but cannot go out of the European boundaries that are becoming tighter and tighter every year.

10 days is way too little time for appeal, especially when there’s a high volume of requests (a single country could overload their capacity)

You are attacking a law that removes national barriers because your slightly-fascist country may abuse of that. Fix the fascism instead.

if a country bans encryption

It won’t happen, but even if it does, you run your own.

the EU consists of several different communities, with different cultures and different thinking.

Where does this come from? An ultra conservative tabloid?

Although there is still a strong push towards national interests due to some countries’ myopia, the EU members are largely aligned with common rules on every aspect of the social life, the EU laws comes before members’ laws like in a federation, and there are common investments including the cohesion funds (did you ever hear of those?).

I think each country should be able to keep its healthy dose of sovereignty.

Basically what the ECR and the Patriots say, which is amusing because they are the authoritarian ones, including some big fan of Putin, MAGA, and Hitler. When you think about it, it’s not surprising that an “healthy dose of sovereignty” goes side by side with far-right ideas.

You may be right if you talk about initiatives to contrast cryptography (which failed multiple times), but in general the EU has always had a centrist politics thanks to the fact that groups like ECR and Patriots never managed to get the power. In the latest years, the far right is gaining traction with victories in some countries and I dare to say that it’s a mix of misinformation, conspiracy theories, and propaganda aiming to push precisely those ideas of an “healthy dose of sovereignty” to weaken what is becoming a political block that could eventually compete with the USA, China, and that could stop the imperialism of Russia. Having some of those far right parties strongly connected to MAGA and Putin, is an interesting “coincidence”.

Check your sources because you have misunderstood lots of things. Unless, of course, you actually want the Europe of 1900.

Do you realise that violations of human rights are in contrast with EU laws, right?

What I propose is voluntary democratic cooperation. That’s all.

I propose you to read less anti-EU propaganda. All the initiatives in the EU are made in agreement with the elected EU parliament and are supported by the member states. You should also check how the right of veto works, all the problems for the lack of authority of the EU (contrary to what you say), and what’s the legislative procedure, because you don’t seem to be fully aware of it.

People who dislike democracy tend to like the EU indeed.

That’s your opinion and it’s not based on facts.

you feel the basis of society should be hierarchical and control

No I don’t.

It makes no sense that the executive branch proposes laws

I’m afraid that you don’t understand how the executive power works.

And it makes no sense that they’re not up for election

You also do not understand the difference between a parliament and a government.

A union, to me, is cooperative with everyone’s boundaries respected. A union to you is top down dictating who does what.

You shouldn’t assume what I think, especially when you are wrong.

What you propose is an alliance where countries maintain their differences, essentially the dissolution of the EU and the return to the Europe of the early 1900. Interestingly that’s the same thing that Putin and Trump hope for. You are free to think it’s better, but I’m not sure you fully understand what that really means.

No

These are real examples of how your utilitarian philosophy is disadvantaged and its shortcomings.

It’s 2025. Not only we are no more butchering minorities for fun, but any European is literally one ticket away to move to another country and start a new life. It’s your choice to stay.

I’ve read about what’s happening in Poland and similar issues exist also in Hungary and Italy where (what a coincidence) far right governments are in charge with their ultra conservative and authoritarian agenda.

However, I don’t see why the EU should not go ahead with the program.

If the Poles (or the Hungarians, the Italians,…) elect a fascist government to rule on them, the problem is with the people, not the EU. I completely understand that you may be against that government, but most of the people around you chose it. They may be fools or fascist. Either way you may be in the wrong place. EU comes with the freedom of movement: use it.

the precursors “European coal and steel community”, “european economic community” are clearly economic alliances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuman_Declaration

unelected EU commission

The EU Commission is the executive branch and it’s approved by the parliament. You should check the basics.

all the freedom surpressing tools that are being build today, which you believe will be used solely against “the bad people”, will be used against you.

You basically say that we should stop producing knives because someone could use them against people.

In this specific case, I don’t see why in a union the location of a person or a company should have any influence on how the law operates. By the way, these laws also work the other way around in favor of the weaks. Imagine if you wanted to sue a guy protected by his government that made it difficult to collect proofs.

What the EU needs is more direct democracy, not the charade that is parliament/commission, but sadly it’s going in the opposite direction.

It’s a nice idea on paper, but I doubt that it would work. The truth is that the vast majority of people fail to understand the basic functioning of the institutions, not to mention how they easily fall for misinformation and conspirationism due to a lack of critical sense and knowledge. It’s a different discussion though.

It was supposed to be an alliance to prevent further wars in Europe and it’s becoming a political union. What’s wrong with that? for that purpose the NATO was created, not EU - it was trade union as the previous commentator said.

Nope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Coal_and_Steel_Community

It was supposed to be a trade union. But like any group in power, they want more and more?

It was supposed to be an alliance to prevent further wars in Europe and it’s becoming a political union. What’s wrong with that?

It’s weird that things related to trade, like unifying the train network, isn’t happening.

You missed something. Check this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-European_Transport_Network or this https://transport.ec.europa.eu/transport-modes/rail_en

But they do spend a lot of time and effort meddling with people’s private life.

Historically cross-border investigations have been difficult making it easier to get away with several crimes, especially fiscal and financial frauds. Improving the exchange of information is trying to solve that.

Is it possible that the Polish government investigates your anti-government post on a Belgian server? Maybe… although you are probably overestimating how much a government cares about criticism on Internet. Consider though that EU rules also aim to guarantee civil liberties against authoritarian governments. Things are not perfect (see Hungarian crackdown on lgbt), but we are getting there (see Italy under investigation for spying on journalists).

Do you believe that EU goverment respect right to privacy and national souvereginity as a fundamental right?

National sovereignty is in contrast with the concept of an EU Union. The EU had been constantly eliminating barriers and differences for the past few decades, so it’s not surprising that also law enforcement will follow the same evolution.

Many far right ultra nationalists don’t like that transfer of powers, but they are the same people who swing from pro-Putin to pro-Trump and appreciate Hitler and Mussolini.

Good point, but also who is enumerating the accounts may have been using many circuits.

Is it that maybe someone on your exit node is trying to enumerate valid accounts?

Go ahead and use the tool that works for you. But don’t forget to test your tools on things you know every once in a while.

Ok boomer.

I’m quite curious to see how it will end in the UK with the porn filters because the people don’t seem to be inclined to use their IDs online, the system is brittle, and non-porn websites are being blocked too.

.

.