that feeling that you have regarding repression from countries like china is only a feeling; not reality.

Even though we have many instances where this happened? And people dissapeared in Hong Kong? Come on, you must be joking.

USA sucks as well. As far as I’m concerned, it is not a democratic country that supports freedom of speech and I’ll never go there.

USA is a bit similar to china on this subject

Oh I know why, I just don’t have the data to confirm this and frankly, I don’t want to. I’ve heard enough to confirm this general feeling. People that have no interest in lying about this, getting sent in jail for minor things, or just seeing what the governments of these countries are saying, lying in plain sight.

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You’re taking the USA as an example, and we all know the current situation is really fucking bad and not comparable to other western countries.

Your “freedom” to “speech” and “democracy” are constrained within a clearly drawn boundary, the boundary of which is drawn by the ruling class.

Sure, it is, but my point is that it’s less restricted.

Notice how a Westerner does not risk anything by truly believing in and expressing things like “china censorship bad arabs/muslims are dirty terrorist scum and need to be wiped off the map these russian orcs need to be wiped off the planet”, but a non-Westerner risks absolutely everything by even slightly hinting at a criticism towards Western imperialism/wanting better conditions at the cost of the ruling class, perhaps even in their own damn fucking country

That’s just a massive lie. It doesn’t work this way, unless maybe you’re in a far-right wing country like the USA rn. I’m in France and we have a lot of far-left people, communists and stuff, none of them are in jail. Saying such things as “bad arabs/muslims are dirty terrorist scum and need to be wiped off the map these russian orcs need to be wiped off the planet” would clearly get you in trouble, especially the “bad arabs/muslims are dirty terrorist scum” because it can’t be argued that you were only talking about soldiers etc…

Any other country outside the West engaging in censorship is either a) a dog of the West or b) protecting itself from fully succumbing into being a dog of the West.

Yea sure, it’s only “you’re with, or against us”. No in-between. haha

I’ll just stop here because there’s no point in this discussion and I feel like I’m just talking to a tankie, member of lemmygrad and hexbear, that hopped on its alt account.

Sure, any censorship, spying and oppression is bad. I’m just saying one goes harder than the other, but I’m not denying that it sucks and that it clearly exists. I’m well aware of the patriot act and that speaking can endanger you. I just have this feeling like you get persecuted for speaking against the government in countries like China, whereas you need to be a strong figure to have the same fate in other countries. Anyways, it sucks for all countries that have this.

I have no data and this is just a feeling.

Democracy and freedom of speech, freedom to protest, freedom in general is in danger

Fuck all those spying countries. But yea still I believe in the west you get in trouble for acting, not just speaking

Nice, thanks for the info