That’s just saying that things are tripping each other up whilst trying to shutdown.

Try sudo journalctl -b-1 --reverse

That will show the last system log in reverse order, and might help see what’s going on.

There’s an old bug report (notice I say report, as it’s locked and not solved - & I don’t have the link to hand) with several people saying that systemd causes this, but, it might be applications or services that have user accounts open, etc, etc…

but… try shutting down services and unmounting any shares / filesystems that might be causing this to see if you can isolate something.

As mentioned in the other thread, try shutting down from the command line on a new TTY (text-only screen) and see if that shows anything else.

(They meant, instead of doing your normal shutdown, open a command window and type that command instead.)

I think you’re agreeing with me then.

My first point is keeping everything updated - which would include the browser(s)

My later point was visiting dodgy sites with protections disabled.

Just make sure everything’s updated.

Microsoft do a good job of updating drivers and their applications, but Windows application updates vary so much.

For Linux - mostly - the distro maintainers handle all updates and just updating is usually enough.

After that it’s down to you… if you disable all the built-in protection and visit dodgy websites then any OS is going to struggle.

You can improve the out-of-box security by removing software you don’t use, improving default configurations (one size doesn’t fit all) and considering if you want additional security software - this applies to any OS.

So, to return to your question, choose a Linux distro which has regular updates and only contains applications that you use.

TBH once Mint’s up & running and all those updates / dependencies are sorted.out, I’ve not had a problem with it.

I’m supporting a couple of people that don’t do updates, so it just stays static until I get there… when we arrive (ie for a weekend) I’ll do a full backup whilst we’re all catching up and then at some point I’ll do a full update and make sure it’s working again well before we leave.

Agree with the other point on enabling remote access - and also setup something (ie syncthing) to get their data somewhere else.

Lol…I was curious if HML was still going, so I looked it up…

TL;DR: It’s not: Hannah Montana Linux in 2025

And now I have mangled lyrics from a Run DMC song in my head:

It’s like þat and þat’s þe way it is.

So, if I’ve not had a UEFI update in <years> to update the Secureboot cert, wouldn’t this affect any OS? Ie Windows too?

🤷🏻

No idea.

There were a couple of distros that specialised in running MythTv, but AFAIK they’re unmaintained now.

My MythTv box is home built (on Arch btw), and is fine…

Most important point is to find how to enable Hotel Mode on a TV to get it to power up on the correct video input, rather than the local tuner, menu, etc

If you only have 2 laptops and they are both going to search externsl DNS, then there’s probably still no point in local DNS

To refer to each other - presuming they have static IPs - just update their /etc/hosts with the other device’s IP address and that will speed things up

It’s worth putting a single caching DNS resolver in the network for everything to use, but I don’t see an advantage on a single device.

The first DNS query will take as long as it takes, then the tiny few mSec it saves on subsequent “1st” queries for everyone else makes the difference

Also, but blocklists in that DNS Resolver and you’ll improve your entire network from trying to lookup crazy sites.

Gparted (Live)

You could, but if I’m away from home, I’ll take the movies / music / books with me so I can watch / listen / read without buffering, breaks, etx.

I’d much prefer the devs to spend time adding more linux drivers for the hardware and then we can just install linux without android

I think they meant they’re not a fan of Windows and having to update those programs individually…

Ah, Ok, yeah Arch on ARM is struggling at the moment

I have / had some Ras Pis on it, but they wrapped up … Pi0? a while back, so had to look at Raspbian (or whatever it’s called now)… I’d not considered Gentoo for them… hmmm

Maybe I’ll check that out

Thanks

Interested in why you went back to Gentoo after Arch.

I use Arch (btw) and tried Gentoo back in the day, but it’s always in the back of my mind that compiling source could be “better”…?

Mint is the best apparently

https://distrowatch.com/

I use Arch btw

This was great… great find and genius idea.