Hey guys relax! It’s all part of the learning experience of Tesla FSD.
Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

Regards
Elon Musk
CEO of Tesla

Yeas, to me it looks more like an orange. So that would be comparing apples to oranges.

Ah OK didn’t notice that. English is 2nd language.

Waymo can absolutely drive at night

True I just checked it up, my information was outdated.

We discussed the test here on Lemmy a few days ago. It was a German 6 hour test.
I can’t find the video that was debated, but you can’t be serious about not knowing about this issue?!?!?
It’s a years old issue that is still not fixed!!! It’s commonly known as Phantom breaking. AKA breaking without reason.

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/german-court-finds-teslas-autopilot-defective-after-lawsuit/

You are completely ignoring the under ideal circumstances part.
They can’t drive at night AFAIK, they can’t drive outside the area that is meticulously mapped out.
And even then, they often require human intervention.

If you asked a professional driver to do the exact same thing, I’m pretty sure that driver would have way better accident record than average humans too.

Seems to me you are missing the point I tried to make. And is drawing a false conclusion based on comparing apples to oranges.

Are you talking about remote controlling cars from India or something?
That last sentence makes very little sense to me.

How is that relevant? I’m pretty sure the latency would be too high, so it wouldn’t even work.

Ah OK you are talking about the navigators, that “help” the car when it can’t figure out what to do.
That’s a fair point.

But still 1 navigator can probably handle many cars. So from the perspective of making a self driving taxi, it makes sense.

I think the fair comparison would be humans that drive legally.
Idiots that drive high or drunk or without prescription glasses or whatever, shouldn’t count as “normal” human driving.
In the same way a self driving car can have issues that will make it illegal.

The problem is that legal self driving Tesla is not as safe as a legal person. I sees poorly at night, it gets confused in situations people handle routinely. And Tesla is infamous for not stopping when the road is blocked from 1m and up, and for breaking without reason. I’ve seen videos where they demonstrated an unnecessary break every ½ hour!! Where a large part was the German Autobahn, which is probably some of the easiest driving in the world!!

Because they are driving under near ideal conditions, in areas that are completely mapped out, and guided away from roadworks and avoiding “confusing” crosses, and other traffic situations like unmarked roads, that humans deal with routinely without problem.
And in a situation they can’t handle, they just stop and call and wait for a human driver to get them going again, disregarding if they are blocking traffic.

I’m not blaming Waymo for doing it as safe as they can, that’s great IMO.
But don̈́t make it sound like they drive better than humans yet. There is still some ways to go.

What’s really obnoxious is that Elon Musk claimed this would be 100% ready by 2017. Full self driving, across America, day and night, safer than a human. I have zero expectation that Tesla RoboTaxi will arrive this summer as promised.

Trump and the Trump administration are behaving like assholes all over the world.
USA has never been so universally unpopular.

Flight passangers from Canada to USA are down 70%.
Tesla sales in Europe are down 50%.

The boycotts have begun, and numbers like these may be common for 2025.
Trump will cost many jobs in USA, and increased inflation, and it seems an economic downturn too.

I understand the Americans that want to distance themselves from this and Republicans in general and especially Trump.
I too would hate to have to share any label with Republicans.

But unfortunately for good Americans, they do share the label American with the totalitarian fascist Republicans.
And what’s more unfortunate is, that the Republicans was the majority at the Presidential election.

I’m sorry to have to lump you together with them under the label American. But this administration and Republicans do represent the whole country now, even those that hate them.

Why is this Trump propaganda upvoted?

underscore a growing sense of frustration among the US leadership about Europe’s role in global security efforts,

WTF? That is a role USA has taken upon them selves, and has secured basically the whole world operates according to American standards!

Europe is increasing military budgets to match USA, in some cases even exceed them. And the loser will be USA, because the reason is that Pax Americana is dead now.

reveal a blunt and unvarnished view of Europe as a “freeloader”.

Except it’s Europe that has to for instance deal with refugees that are a result of American policies.
And Europe spend more than USA in foreign aid to rebuild after wars that USA supplied the weapons for.

This piece despite of being Australian is American parroting idiocy at its worst.
Is that really where Australia stands?

However, the texts suggest the US may not view these relationships as mutually beneficial. Rather, they are increasingly seen as a strategic burden.

We will se what they say when the consequences of their actions begin to have effect.

whether European nations can afford to remain in a relationship in which their contributions are seen as so dispensable.

Seems to me the reaction is to break out of of that relationship. If USA want’s to destroy democracy and dictate other countries, it will be without Europe.

She is such a charmer, I can see why Americans vote for her.
/s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice
It seems it’s still legit, but of course Libre Office is the better choice.

For me it was about freedom, and not being locked into the Microsoft sphere.

Past administrations have all had hands toward what we have today.

Absolutely, as I wrote Obama was just unlucky that it was under him that these things were revealed.

It’s disheartening to feel so powerless in the face of such a FUBAR-POTUS clown show in the chainsaw wielding circus.

I am really sorry for all the good Americans that have to suffer the consequences of this administration.
It will probably get worse before it gets better.

Was it written on the phone of the people they called?
The claim was that with calls from foreign countries, if it was an American they spoke to, it would not be monitored.
Only foreigners were.

Yes IMO that part was very disappointing. As I used to say, Obama is an excellent president for USA, but he is still American.
Meaning there are things that we simply don’t see the same way.
But as a Dane I can’t really complain much about it. Because we were complicit, and helped USA spy against other European countries, for which I am much ashamed.

No I don’t, Obama was a good president and USA was a strong ally under him.
I hate Trump.
But it’s alarming IMO that a president that we consider moderate and a friend, still think these things are OK.
And Obama was just unfortunate that it was under him that these things were revealed.

As should have been done already 10 years ago. When it became clear American authorities can seize any information even when stored on servers outside USA, by any American service provider.
And Obama claimed it was a “fair balance”.

USA has in many ways acted almost like a totalitarian regime for decades, disregarding their own laws, international laws, and especially the laws of other countries, even allies.

This became very clear when Obama stressed that illegal surveillance/monitoring wasn’t used against American citizens.
Obviously meaning that citizens of other countries have no rights, and there are no laws preventing American intelligence in any way.

As it turned out, what Obama promised wasn’t even true, and Americans stationed in for instance Iraq, were very much monitored.

With regard to information of other countries, USA has CLEARLY demonstrated, that they have no regard for decency or even laws.

This was revealed when Obama was president, and the Republicans are even worse!!

USA and EU has made an agreement on this, claimed to make it legal in EU to use American cloud services.
But as we have seen, no American administration gives a fuck about such agreements or even laws, so that agreement isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.