Is it just me, or the government of India is cracking down of all end to end encryption apps like signal and element.
Cause I guy who works for the police came to my house and asked whether I use signal and element
The majority of users on Lemmy are probably not from India, I would say our userbase skews US/Europe.
This is a very, very interesting and important story, if it’s true.
Do you have any other evidence of this happening? It’s okay if your sources are not in English, that’s just the nature of local media, it speaks the local language.
Would love to hear more about this from your perspective, @Ritsu4Life@lemmy.world because this is a big, important issue that needs discussion if it’s really happening. Please expand your thoughts and any evidence you may have in the comments section, please and thank you.
Finally, thank you for bringing this to our attention at all. Cheers.
Thanks for the comment. I haven’t found any local news for this. I may update this once I find any
And for my story: A guy came from the police station he had a list all the people who were using "signal, element and bip (not open source, full of ads but encrypted) and a buch more end to end encrypted apps. Shown my mobile number, address and my name.
Told me why I was using signal and element and also had to show my chats. Didn’t look at all the chats, was curious tho.
Said that these apps were used by terrorist and all and you should switch to WhatsApp.
WhatsApp runs India. It is a backbone all Indian users and it is also e2ee for all I know
Why I was using Signal
WhatsApp, Instagram and Discord are used by terrorists, iOS and Windows too.
Join the police. Make all your friends join the police. Report your new boss for terrorism.
I wonder how they’d detect their usage. Signal is understandable, it has central servers (although I thought they were blocked and thus their usage wouldn’t be detectable under a good VPN anyway). But Matrix? Are they looking for connections to known public servers? Or the usage of the protocol itself stands out so that even selfhosted servers would stand out?
If I were in such a situation, I’d start to hide traffic to anything they might dislike anyway.
Host your own XMPP node outside the country’s jurisdiction, turn on E2EE if it weirdly wasn’t on by default, & don’t trust the big centralized servers they could easily ban. Apparently everyone wants to dismiss XMPP since you can disable the E2EE (since it is a generic protocol for lots of stuff) despite encryption being on by default on every modern client—so there is your deniability 🙃 Unlike Matrix, the average user can afford to run it on a toaster too.
Ay yo wtf.
I thought India was a democracy?
🤔
Wtf. Why did you think that?
By every definition of democracy I’m familiar with the Republic of India is a democratic government. Do you think it’s not? If so, why not?
State-sponsoree pogroms. State-sposored censorship of NGOs and journalists.
You can’t have a democracy under fascism, even if that fascist was originally elected by the majority.
so if the majority want fascism it can’t be a democracy? I thought democracy was majority rule. Can it not be that majoirty rule itself IS the issue?
It’s true Indian government has banned Element and other Apps and forced Signal, WhatsApp and other such apps to have a local representative so that they can arrest someone and force their will. But there is one silver lining, it is that these politicians don’t fully understand how open source software works. So just banning Element app doesn’t do much I can switch to schildiChat or just download element source code and change the name and logo and boom I’m back in.
And also most of their app bans are just requests sent to Google play store and Apple App store, You can always download from FDroid or from other sources
and there is no real way they can enforce these stupid laws.
They started going through chats on traffic stops, but there are ways to avoid that also
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