A Palestinian man was found dead in a park in the Belgian city of Antwerp with his hands and feet tied, leaving the cause of his death a mystery amid authorities’ suggestion that it may have been a suicide.
“Suicide.”
“There is no such thing as a ‘lesser evil’ when the result is genocide”
“Yes there is”
- a completely unironic liberal take I saw highly upvoted just today that this reminded me of.
Eventually you are the evil, and that moment passed a long time ago.
“There is no such thing as a ‘lesser evil’ when the result is genocide”
“Yes there is”
a completely unironic liberal take I saw highly upvoted just today that this reminded me of.
Eventually you are the evil, and that moment passed a long time ago.
Do you regard the Soviets and the Nazis as equally evil?
Do you regard the Soviets and the Nazis as equally evil?
I’m not too sure how constructive this question is. They have different characteristics for sure and this is enough for me, in terms of analysis.
It’s very constructive. Soviets and Nazis both committed genocide. But anyone with a shred of morality should have no hesitation, if it’s down to the wire and only the two of them to choose from, which one should side with. The Soviets, if that wasn’t clear. The Soviets, awful as they were, and even though they were quite literally genocidal - on multiple occasions, on a massive scale - are very much the lesser evil compared to the Nazis. The idea that there is no ‘lesser evil’ when genocide is involved on both sides as a matter of general principle would necessarily imply that the Soviets and the Nazis are equally evil, which is fundamentally absurd on its face.
It’s a hollow argument trotted out to make “LIBERALS BAD FOR FOREIGN POLICY” sound more profound; it’s not a sincerely held principle, and the inability to answer that challenge displays that.
Soviets and Nazis both committed genocide.
Wait untill you hear about what happened to the indigenous Americans.
Or, indigenous Australians.
Or, pretty much everywhere the British “discovered”.
Wait untill you hear about what happened to the indigenous Americans.
Or, indigenous Australians.
Or, pretty much everywhere the British “discovered”.
What does that have to do with my point?
I entirely misread your argument the first time.
I actually agree with you.
I was initially dismissive because of the old “are X as evil as Nazi’s?” As that’s usually a disingenuous argument. Selecting the Soviet Union as another “evil” is almost always American anti-communist nonsense too.
I shall go and correct my other comment.
No worries, it happens. I went to Nazis because no one worth taking seriously disputes that Nazis are both genocidal and some of the worst scum of the earth to ever disgrace this planet, so it avoids an argument over whether Side A is REALLY that bad. The number of cretins as vile as the Nazis is very small - and so frees Side B to be a legitimately evil, yet indisputably less evil, contrast.
I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from the Birmingham Jail
https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html
Yes, we are all familiar with the Letter from Birmingham Jail. Congratulations on passing your high school history class.
Now would you like to answer the nice person’s question? Would you prefer more or less genocide. Very simple.
And no, I’m not a fucking moderate.
