• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Pretty much the whole political range from the extreme Right up to and including the Greens (but not the Left party) normalized racial discrimination with their whole “unwavering support of the Jewish nation” (i.e. unlimited support entirely because of their race) whilst they mass murdered civilians because of their ethnicity (a crime so foul that the list of dead Palestinian babies 1 year old or younger for the first 6 months of the Genocide is 17 pages long).

    They not just normalized in Germany the mindset of discriminating on the basis of race, but once the Genocide started they went all the way to unwaveringly supporting a modern variant of Nazism giving as reason for that that those doing it represented “the Jewish People”.

    It’s absolutely natural that the Far Right nationalists would think that “well, if even mass murdering Palestinian babies is fine if the murderers are Jews, then surely it’s equally fair that those who are Germans should be able to do whatever one wants to non-Germans” (or in other words “if it’s fine for them, then it’s fine for us too”)

    There really isn’t that much of an Ethical and Moral distance between “those of a specific race can mass murder babies of the ethnicity they deem ‘human animals’” (which is what almost the entirety of the German political class defended) and “our specific race can treat other races any way they see fit” (which is the AfD’s position) - in fact I would even go as far as saying that “merely” being anti-Immigration is Ethically and Morally a less monstrous position to hold than supporting mass murder of innocent civilians because they’re from a different ethnicity than a race you favor.

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    German “center” was a pure advertisement for AfD. Even the supposed left parties were masisve genocide advocates.

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    Duh! I’ve been saying this on here and getting called a Nazi as a result. First, censorsing & criminalizing free speech is fasscist behavior. But it is also causes those groups to grow.

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      Are you talking about Germany’s ban on fascist symbols and Holocaust denial?

      If so, calling that “fascist behavior” is the dumbest shit I’ve heard in a while. Seriously below “what happened to the tolerant left” level.

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        I believe he’s talking about Germany not allowing critique on war crimes and mass murder if perpetrated by Israel.

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          And that is not on a criminal level but instead on a political.

          It is legally perfectly allowed to critique Israel. So the OP still would be wrong.

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            Actually are there are legal restrictions on critising Israel in Germany.

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              That’s wrong. You can criticise Israel all day long, but you may maneuver yourself into problems if you mix up the Jews (as in anti-semitic rhetoric) with the the state of Israel.

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              Really? I can’t remember that anybody got legally punished for criticizing Israel, but I might just not remember it. Can you provide sources for your claim?

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          And that is not on a criminal level but instead on a political.

          It is legally allowed to critique Israel.

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        No censorship of speech has always been liberal. /s Also its kidna funny how eastern european countries now have stronger foundations of liberal democracy than germany, since statements like “from the river to the sea” are not criminalized as antisemitic.

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      Free speech gave the USA Trump.

      I rather like that in Germany it’s a crime to deny the Holocaust. The problem is that our politicians are too cowardly to stand up towards Israel and to stupid to realize the problem with the Holocaust isn’t that jews were the main target, but rather that it happened at all.

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        exactly, free speech fundamentalism just allows freedom to abuse anyone and lie about anything

        what’s happening in germany is the same playbook as in the US. use wedge issues like immigration, palestine and economic hardship to split the left and support the far right in social media spam

        at least in germany you can vote constructively for a variety of parties that can create a government that effectively excludes the far right

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        Free speech gave the USA Trump.

        Not at all. The things that Trump says are acceptable to the ruling class of America. Even without free speech (which the US doesn’t actually have), Trump would never be the victim of censorship laws.