• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    What governments and corporations never understand and will never want to understand is that …

    … it isn’t about the quantity of life … or even the quantity of people who are alive or are born

    … it’s about the quality of life

    If everyone lives a comfortable, safe and fulfilling life without risk of poverty or losing everything they have, then they are more likely to have children and raise them to become productive people who will contribute to society.

    Otherwise if you don’t take care of people, they will either have no children or a bunch of children that will all grow up to become a burden to society.

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      If everyone lives a comfortable, safe and fulfilling life without risk of poverty or losing everything they have, then they are more likely to have children and raise them to become productive people who will contribute to society.

      You would assume that, but is it really true? The countries with the safest and most comfortable lives, in Scandinavia, have the lowest birth rates. The countries with the least safe and comfortable lives, in Africa, have the highest birth rates.

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        Well, countries with higher birthrates have a third option that is essentially negligible in those with lower birthrates, which is not even making it to adulthood. Effectively still less children end up becoming productive members of society. And together with that, due to less available social services, often a goal of having children survive is so they can take care of the parent when they’re older.

        As soon as infant mortality becomes a non-factor, birthrates decline drastically as well. And since children are no longer largely seen as a “life assurance” for when parents are older, and the society’s demands for productive members is higher as well, the focus really does shift to the quality of the life and the two types of reasons to have kids are harder to compare. But even among developed nations you can see differences in fertility rates.

        PS. Scandinavia doesn’t have the lowest birth rates, they actually have fairly typical birth rates for more developed regions.

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      Maybe we should be less focused on making more people, and more focused on enabling living people to work together to meet each other’s needs?

      People will have children. But the only thing that pushes the nationalistic desires to have a positive birth rate is the zealotry around eternal 3%+ growth of financial product. That needs a growing consumer base.

      We could be achieving an economic degrowth while simultaneously increasing the standard of living. Instead we have tech billionaires, a venture capitalist class, and a war on women’s(as well everyone else’s) bodily autonomy.

    • Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Capitalism is totally different from a ponzi scheme. In a ponzi scheme, the profits go up to the person at the top and you always need new people that come in, otherwise the whole thing will fall apart and the people at the bottom will be the ones that suffer. Under capitalism however, the profits of everyone’s work will go up to the top and you always need new workers to come in, otherwise the system will fall apart and the people at the bottom will suffer. Totally different.

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        Hm. There is a difference.

        Once crapitalists run out of “new horizons” to “expand” into, they start cannibalizing their current workforce and raise prices while lowering quality for customers.

        Do not be fooled. Quality is going down because profits are going up.

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    Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

    All child healthcare is also free after a prefecture-set monthly premium (usually about 1000 yen).

    This policy announcement is specifically about making the 0-3 year old gap free.

    Honestly I’d rather just see the government pay more into the shakai hoken (the national insurance that pays for mother/father leave) so people can take more time off from work early on in the kids’ lives.

    Making it easier for parents to go back to work instead of focusing what’s good for children and parents seems par for the course.

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      The only solution is to make childcare paid i.e. every single person that has a child gets a stipend worth a full time job.

      Because it is a full time job.

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    Affordable housing, better working conditions, less working hours, efficient healthcare and better pay. It’s not hard goddamn it.

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    Decent first step, but it’s going to take an actual investment in making parenthood desirable.

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      Parenthood is already desirable. There’s a biological drive and social conditioning to desire it for most people. The disincentives have just become overwhelming. Children take a hell of a lot of resources. Every aspect of modern society has drained all the time, money, energy, emotional resiliance, social support, etc that people need.

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    Also…loosen immigration laws?

    I know it’s a very closed off nation with deep cultural roots that is very weary of outsiders…

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      I don’t mind finding work in Japan… …if it wasn’t so hostile to workers

      So far, Japan is near the bottom of my list for western countries to work at, and I would much rather find a job in Korea instead

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        Japan is near the bottom of my list for western countries

        Japan is an Eastern country. In fact, it’s the farthest East county possible.

        I think the words you were looking for were “first world countries”.

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      Childcare is outrageous. Daycare for my two kids was more than my mortgage every month. Ive been counting down until they were eligible for public schools