• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    in his particular case, he is 19. how long ago did he commit the “crime”? and they talk about multiple other kids being charged. the whole thing is fucked.

      • willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        17 days ago

        I am a different person from the one you were bantering with. This is the best quote I’ve found:

        By the fall of 2024, Lane found the source of his next fix: Credentials stolen from a PowerSchool contractor were available online.

        And he’s 20 now, mentioned right at the beginning of the article. So roughly 1.5 years ago? So if my math is right, he could have been 18? We have to count a few months more than just one year back (apr 2025 would have been exactly one year ago).

        Anyway I upvoted the both of you for the conversation. No hard feelings at all. It’s just not so obvious to me he was 19 at the comission of the crime.

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          17 days ago

          He is 20 years old now and the crime he was prosecuted for and convicted of was committed when he was 19 according to the first two paragraphs of the article that is linked.

          On a recent Tuesday morning, as his parents were driving him to the federal prison in Connecticut where he’ll be locked up for the foreseeable future, 20-year-old Matthew Lane sent a text message to ABC News.

          “It’s extremely sad, and I’m just scared,” he wrote.

          Barely a year earlier, while still a teenager, he helped launch what’s been described as the biggest cyberattack in U.S. education history – a data breach that concerned authorities so much, it prompted briefings with senior government officials inside the White House Situation Room.

          People seem to think that I’m advocating for him to suffer the messed up prison system when what I’m actually pointing out is that this is something he knowingly engaged in as a legal adult.

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            17 days ago

            well he isn’t done with his brain deployment even now, and his incarceration wouldn’t fix anything. being legally an adult doesn’t change the ethics here.

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              17 days ago

              Sigh. I have not been disputing this.

              Just because someone you view as a child did something terrible but you feel like they deserve a pass because the consequences of that terrible thing they did are too harsh doesn’t mean that this isn’t the reality and additionally doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t ask the question of whether they would have stopped if they hadn’t been caught or punished.

              If a child was kidnapped or raped because of what he did, what then? where’s the line? Do you feel the same about school shooters, or children who molest other children, or is it just because he made a credible threat but wasn’t able to execute it that you feel he specifically deserves a pass here?

              Brock Turner was 19 when he raped a woman who had passed out. He was heavily intoxicated. Should we take the fact that his brain wasn’t finished developing, or the fact that he was intoxicated into account when we decided if he broke the law?

              Genuinely asking because there so much danger posed by leaking the data he stole, and pretending he did nothing wrong doesn’t really make sense to me.

              I have already stated my views on prison and they hold for most crimes, regardless of age actually. I believe in rehabilitation rather than punishment, and I don’t think prison or the prison system offers that so I don’t believe prison is the place for this individual. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t recognize what he did was wrong or had a great potential for wide spread harm.