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schizoidman@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 6 months ago

Indonesia’s president seeks closer ties to Xi Jinping and China

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Indonesia’s president seeks closer ties to Xi Jinping and China

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schizoidman@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 6 months ago
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First foreign trip in office signals Beijing’s importance for investment but will be followed by US visit

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/46921130

https://archive.is/LMRYh

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    Are you sad that Indonesia doesn’t want to become the United States’ pet?

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      Are you happy Indonesia is becoming China’s pet?

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        Probably, he part of lemmy.ml and the profile is filled with propaganda posts

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          Yours is also full of “propaganda”, for the imperial core.

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            Dude, just look what you posted a few mins ago or check your comments history. It same shit over and over again

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        I’m happy when any state chooses China as a partner over the imperial hegemon.

        • Are We the Baddies?
        • List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
        • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism
        • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
        • The blueprint of regime change operations
        • Infographic: US military presence around the world The US controls about 750 bases in at least 80 countries worldwide and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined.
        • World Incarceration Rates If Every U.S. State Were A Country

        .
        (map is ~8 years old)

        “Forward-defense ring,” a perfectly normal turn of phrase and not at all Orwellian Newspeak.

        (map is ~11 years old)

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          Dude at least the US used to be a democratic country. China is a repressive dictatorship. Try to mention Tienanmen square anywhere

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            The US has never been and will never be a democracy, because it was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote.[Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

            China, in contrast, practices democratic centralism. And its no wonder that the Chinese people are very satisfied with their government, because their quality of life has been improving over the last few generations[2], while ours has been dropping over the last ~40 years of grinding neoliberalism.

            Your understanding of China comes exclusively from the imperial core propaganda you & I have been exposed to our entire lives. You’ll never understand it in any other way unless you investigate outside of the bubble we live in.

            Try to mention Tienanmen square anywhere

            You can in fact mention Tienanmen square in China. The idea that you can’t comes to you from Western propaganda.

            • The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie.
            • Columbia Journalism Review: The Myth of Tiananmen
            • 1989 Tian’anmen Square riots
            • A Note on the Tiananmen Protests
            • Images from Tiananmen 1989 the West never shows (NSFW / CW: violence and death)
            • Tank Man video footage. Tiananmen Square, Beijing, 1989
            • How psy-ops warriors fooled me about Tiananmen Square: a warning
            • [Carl Zha’s] Memories of Tiananmen Protest
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          人民萬歲

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