And if you use one, are you happy with it?

I’m trying to get more into privacy and security and VPN is currently a struggle for me (and it seems also for some people in my social circle). It’s mostly cost, effectiveness, but also connection issues (not being able to connect to servers, not reaching websites, sometimes slower speed.

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    They didn’t say they don’t value privacy; a bit of a strawman. Most connections are private even if not anonymous. TLS is sufficient for many uses. Knowing this allows one to be discerning about when a VPN is more useful.


    Actually maybe I misread your intent. On second glance, looks like you might be yes-and’ing.

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      “I value privacy I just think TLS is sufficient” is exactly the kind of crud I’m talking about hahaha. You guys would be so easy to DNS poison

      Don’t think this attitude will survive long once Copilot & stuff starts making meemaw and peepaw into Minority Report-style billboards for gallblader medication

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        Are you saying TLS doesn’t make the data that traverses a connection private? If so, I think we’ve discovered the deficiency in your viewpoint.

        e: missed a word

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          That must sound really epic if you don’t know anything about how internet security works at all and have no threat model outside of a guy sharing public wifi with you. No important personal information, photos, professional files, financial documents, websites. Which would track for a Lemmy.world reply guy who apparently got roused from days of slumber by me impertinently pointing out I am the only person in the thread advocating thorough privacy practices

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            Take it down a notch Scotty. We’re all here for a common purpose. No need to brow beat people. It’s exactly this attitude that I harp on in privacy forums. It’s like, give a guy some information and suddenly they think they’ve got some moral or intellectual high ground and others are mere normies, sheep, et al. Some people don’t need a VPN with a triple hop Socks proxy. Their threat model doesn’t dictate that. Where as I want all the obfuscation I can get.

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              Funny you say that since a few hours ago someone on here posted “how did reddit ban my alts??” and you’re acting like this is an issue that only affects hobbyists and experts. My guess is you don’t say anything interesting enough to have issues.

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            No. You’re the only one I see implying there are no cases where data is private outside a VPN. Strictly speaking, if you need only the data across a connection to be private TLS is sufficient. Who is implying that is a complete threat model. You are building more and more strawmen against which to argue, but it really just sounds silly. I’m a professional that has been in the industry for decades, so your dick waving contest just doesn’t move me.

            Yes, a more complete risk analysis in many cases may show that you’d like the host one is reaching to also be private, but nobody is saying such a situation doesn’t exist; you’re barking at the moon.

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              Hah, now you’re trying to bring your employment requirements into it. Imagine trying to dick wave about being an IT guy and throwing a tantrum because someone didn’t trust datacenters and want to hug and kiss them and hand over all of their family’s information to them. Your whole threat model is the guy trying to break into wifi. You are literally part of my own threat model. Law enforcement is an asset to you, not a part of a threat model. You are a computer mall cop. Yeah, people like you are exactly why nobody should ever be satisfied with TLS encryption 😂 incompetent shrill nincompoop

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                  You should try being correct about something. It’s much better than being angry. It’s like pissing on a guy who keeps drinking it, but complains about the flavor. If you could hold your own, you wouldn’t feel the need to make so many reply guy accounts to seem less alone. (It doesn’t work.)