• iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    Ooof. After having a pinephone, I know what 2 or 3GB of RAM can handle these days. Not much, really. Specially the moment you open the browser. I’m going to pass from any project that doesn’t attempt to at least get close to this decade’s standards.

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      1 month ago

      Specially the moment you open the browser

      I’d be curious, did you profile if it’s for all pages or only some? I’d expect e.g. Facebook or Instagram to be more demanding than Lemmy or ProtonMail but to be honest I have no idea.

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        1 month ago

        I had a Windows Phone with 2GB of memory before, even (old) Reddit was horrendous, let alone Proton Mail with all its JavaScript and images.

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        23 days ago

        I think you’re checking the Pro model. This one has a more powerful CPU and more RAM, and would have been a better option, except it had miserable failures to get it to boot or control the battery on launch, and development has been much slower than on the normal Pinephone, which although is woefully underpowered, it launched earlier and had a bigger support base. Pinephone Pro, while on paper being more powerful, stayed unusuable for rather long. I actually have both, and I haven’t checked recently to see if the Pro is any better these days. The normal one while having a much better compatibility (a lot of things worked with very little troubleshooting), RAM was seriously an Achilles heel, and you’d notice it the moment you opened Firefox or attempted to launch waydroid.

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      My current Android phone has 4GB and it’s really smooth. I’ve got 90 Firefox tabs open and several apps. I’d love to see that level of optimization in a startup, but more RAM will just mask the bad optimization.

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        As an ex-Andrpid dev, all this optimization is what killed the creativity. Every feature you currently have is hyperoptimized (even with dedicated battery optimizations turned off for the most popular apps), and as a result nothing you can’t easily change is changeable anymore.

        Want a widget that self updates every couple minutes by connecting to the internet? Can’t have that, even if the user explicitly accepts it. Want to customize behavior of things in the settings? Nope. Want to hook into the phone memory and do crazy hacks? Not even with root. Want to keep running some checks to determine when to send a notification? Can’t do that either, non-push notifications are all scheduled in advance.

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    1 month ago

    Can I just send you five years worth of „we’re sorry we’re behind schedule” messages and then ghost you instead? If so send me $159

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    It looks cool and all, but its probably going to have like 400mb of ram and an rp2040 like every other linux handheld device.

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          With 640x480 screen i doubt it’ll be used for web browsing, unless you use lynx. Firefox in a pinch, but my guess is this will appeal mostly to Linux terminal users.

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            29 days ago

            yeah people arguing about the usefulness of this thing clearly aren’t the target audience

            And they should just accept that lol

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    1 month ago

    I see a lot of negativity in the comments. And yeah, this thing probably isn’t something I’m going to get, but at least they are trying something that isn’t a generic rectangle of glass like all the others. I miss the days of fun gadgets.