• theherk@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    They held mock elections in schools and it seems the far right party is extremely popular with young folks. Troubling how fascism rises so quickly.

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      16 hours ago

      Why are the younger gens becoming right wing? Your young your supposed to hold progressive ideas

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        1 hour ago

        The answer is simpler than you might think. Progressive policies often ask you to change things that you don’t want change for the benefit of a larger group.

        The idea that new policy will fix old problems and magically make things better is simply laughable.

        Add in a constant stream of nostalgia that is constantly tells the younger generations how everything used to be better back in the good old days, and none of this should be a surprise.

        Why the fuck would anybody support progressive policies that make their life more difficult, more cumbersome, and add extra bureaucratic red tape so that somebody else might benefit 50 years from now?

        Why would anybody agree to make changes in their life and adopt progressive policies that make things more difficult and more restrictive while constantly being told about how used to be so much better before the government stepped in and decided that this is bad for you can’t have it anymore.

        Right wing = conservative = people don’t like change. So yeah, people are const being told how things used to be better and resisting new policies that they don’t like that make things worse.

        What a hard concept.

        Let’s use recycling as an example. Before recycling was sold to everyone as the way to save the planet, everyone put all the trash in one can and it went to the dump.

        Somewhere down the line, corporations managed to convince government that everyone should help them recycle the packaging trash that they produced. Recycling is good and will save the environment if everyone does their part.

        Fast-forward 40 years and now there’s 8 different bins to separate all of the different types of plastic and glass and metal and paper and trash. And who has to do all of this work? yiu and me and everyone except the corporations that created it in the first place.

        Why is the corporation that created that garbage and plastic waste not responsible for us clean up in the first place? Why are these progressive policies such as recycling everyone’s face instead of solving the problem which is too much plastic packaging?

        Are you surprised that people would not want to recycle because it’s a huge pain in the ass specially in rural places where there is garbage collection and everything has to be sorted manually at the dump?

        Are you surprised that people don’t like California’s restrictive emissions, laws, and anti-modification laws? But it’s good for the environment. It will improve the air quality. Gasoline is bad.

        Why would I wanna buy a new car that runs shittier needs more maintenance brakes but it is environmentally friendly? (go do some research on how the EGR system works for diesel engines and tell me that you want that shit on your car)

        Seems like a better solution would be to increase public transportation so people don’t need a fucking car as their primary mode of transportation.

        But it’s much easier to guilt trip people into thinking their car is bad for the environment and convince them that they need to be the savior of the fucking planet then it is to legislate and force oil companies and car companies that want to sell more oil and more cars.

        My point is people keep getting told life used to be easier things used to be better and everything sucks now in order to fix it. We need to pass these laws which no one wants and surprise that people are voting for the conservative part is it we don’t want to change shit.

        Conservative parties have a lot of other way worse ideas as they relate to social issues and societal problems. Usually the easiest solutions to scape goat somebody else and say hey this group of people over here sucks. They are the cause of all your problems not these corporations and rich fucks who pay us lots of money to ignore you and your needs.

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        16 hours ago

        Probably the same thing that happens all over Europe: right wing parties are favored by social media.

        It’s easy to just claim things and spread hate in short form content. It’s hard to set things straight and share a more nuanced opinion.

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          I’m worried it may also be short sightedednes (is that a word?)

          Had a conversation with a friend the other day who voted for that block, but not that party, and it’s a bit frightening how otherwise intelligent people fall into the simplistic arguments made by this populist party.

          We’re spending too much money on X, we need to cut it to the bone. Without ever asking a follow-up question as to what will happen if you do that. Maybe it is as you say, you get served something on social media that seems like an easy fix and people eat it up without question before jumping to the next tik tok or whatever.

          A big thing in this election has also been the wealth tax, which I agree is not working as it should. However a lot of people seem to believe that this tax originated in a vacuum by a greedy government, and not an attempt to have the multi millioners pay some god damned tax.

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            Emotions also play a big role in this. Lots of political parties aim to maintain the status quo. If the status quo isn’t working anymore for a lot of people, they start looking for answers. In comes the right, making people angry about the situation, and angry people stop thinking. Instead they start parroting talking points, and the right is ready to feed people points and solutions that are easy, quick and wrong. By now the angry mass gobbles it up and integrates it in their belief system. Any rational argument against the slogans henceforth becomes a personal attack. Radicalization is now complete.

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        14 hours ago

        I held pretty hardcore right wing ideas when I was young. Even into my 30s. Environment plays a big role in social understandings. Basically everyone in my family was a giant bigot, as was I.

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        16 hours ago

        Not necessarily. Rebellious, is what young people often are. At least I was. If some social policy was the status quo for a long time they might rebel against that. Thankfully my parents were super conservative.

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          I can see that. Being a late 70s gen x I grew up under conservative parents and even the older gen x seemed to be more conservative. Those of gen x who were teens in the 90s seemed to be far more against religion and traditions.

          I sort of hope that is true because that would mean the hard right now who’s preaching trad wives and push as many babies as possible are also hopefully raising the next big age group to rebel against them. And among the religious groups who’s membership has increased with teens.

          Here’s hoping they grow to hate their parents mental abuse and lies as they are going to be those growing up in a world where they can see their parents lies happening in real time, from crumbling infrastructure, healthcare, jobs and climate change they are going to have to come together to survive. Maybe aids 2.0 whatever that will be will help make that push.

          COVID did the opposite but a disease that literally kills their friends and family while the government does nothing

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        16 hours ago

        Fascism thrives on fear as a means to control. It fosters it. It kindles it. It works hard to keep reasons up for people to feel fear, so that they turn off their thinking and let the fascists control their fear.

        While in Western Europe the past 70 years were mostly working on the notion that your wealth and well being would increase, we now are at a point, where the future will have mostly loss of wealth and well being relative to the parents generation. In that climate, Fascists can easily foster, exploit and twist those fears.

        “Climate change? It isn’t real and it is just a hoax to take your car away! Global instability and mass expulsion of people? It is just the brown people wanting to steal your social security! Don’t look at the countries and corporations running the globe into the ground and being in bed with the Fascists! Look at the people struggling as a result of it. Hate them, look down on them and fear them. And fear becoming like them, as we dismantle the very same systems that gave you a stable livelihood!”

        Fascism is a self fulfilling prophecy of fear, anger and decline for the people falling into it and a brief mania of total control and superiority for the Fascist leaders, until the whole system comes crashing down, as it inevitably does.