cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/17626996

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Speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the issue, Libyan, Arab and European officials told MEE that National Security Adviser Ibrahim Dbeibah, a relative of Prime Minister Abdul Hamid Dbeibah, was spearheading the talks despite Palestinians in Gaza flatly rejecting US President Donald Trump’s postwar plan for the enclave.

The source said that in an attempt to placate some Libyan leaders, the US was prepared to confer economic support or other benefits in exchange for the country taking in Palestinians.

The idea of Libya serving as a possible new home for expelled Palestinians comes amid reports that Khalifa Haftar, a powerful military leader who also oversees a rival rubber-stamp parliament in the country’s east, was offered greater control over the country’s oil resources if he agreed to resettle hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.

“The Palestinians will not be getting any care from those governments, which will push them to the following catastrophe, [which] will lead to a new wave of migration towards the shores of Europe. And this is also a scary thought, firstly because the past decades have proven to us that many of them will only make it halfway through the Mediterranean, like many of those boats that capsized. And those that would eventually get to Europe, I do not think that Europe would be welcoming of another one million Arabs arriving at its shores, as the Syrians who just made similar journeys just few years ago.”

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      In this case it is even more insidious in my eyes. After Gaddafi has been ousted, Libya has been effectively split and maintained dysfunctional. Now they try to exploit this split and dysfunctionality to promise recognition to whichever side is willing to play their evil game.

      The same is don in talks with South Sudan and Somaliland, exploiting weakened countries that have split off and struggle for international recognition. Of course all of the “candidates” are wholly unprepared to provide any sort of safety to the ethnically cleansed people. In my eyes this has strong resemblance to the Madagascar plan of the Nazis, where the inability of the receiving land to adequately care for the people and subsequent large numbers of people killed by starvation and/or conflict with the local population is by design.

      In a way it is offshoring further genocide through ethnic cleansing.

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        The only good option for relocation is Egypt, but as of yet, they are not willing to take in Gazan refugees. Relocation of Gazans also means Israel would get away with genocide and have their cake too. But something clearly needs to be done. The suffering is immense.

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          There simply is no “good option” in ethnic cleansing and genocide.

          What should be done is forcing Israel to end the genocide and provide full access for humanitarian help. Then Israel needs to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza and all the war criminals need to be brought to justice in The Hague. European countries could easily enforce that by ending all weapons shipments and economic and diplomatic support for the illegal occupation as well as blocking all land, sea and air routes for any shipment to Israel that is beyond food, medicine and other basic necessities for life. Bonus points for threatening sanctions against the Arab states complicit in helping Israel such as the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Even more bonus points for breaking the naval blockade and allowing unhindered humanitarian access by Sea.

          We have seen with the US that Trump actually doesn’t fight, once someone stands up to him. China stood up to him and he stepped down quickly in the tariff bullshit. Russia isn’t even bothering to pretend anymore and Trump is instead bullying Ukraine on behalf of Russia. If the US would be the only one left supporting Israel in the West, the Arab traitor regimes would also reconsider, if they want to go with the US down this path or quickly switch sides, which is in line with what their populations want.

          The continued treachery of the Arab regimes will blow into their face and has the possibility to bring on a new Arab spring in Egypt and Jordan, which could spiral out of control for Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states quickly. Ethnically cleansing millions of Palestinians into Egypt or Jordan would certainly be the tipping point for these regimes.

          If the EU countries get their shit together, they will realize that they are in the process of setting a region with hundreds of millions of people ablaze by continuing their lackluster response to Israels crimes and could face down a “refugee crisis” compared to which everything before was a walk in the park on a sunny day in May.

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            This is all wishful thinking. I’m way past the stage of EU leaders having a spine. In a perfect –or much better than ours– world, this could happen. Not in ours. European leaders won’t even properly defend against an invasion in their own continent. They can’t even find consensus on whether to condemn the Israeli regime’s actions. I’m just thinking of saving lives here. Justice is too much to ask in this sick world.

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        Agreed. Clear to see why Israel ordered the US to regime change all these countries.

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          The regime change in Libya was primarily motivated by France, not the US. It is tied to France continuous presence in its former colonies in North and West Africa.
          There is currently a scandal ongoing in France as the Sarkozy Government was probably bankrolled by Gaddafi .

          The US is far from the only “player” meddling in Africa and West Asia and they don’t need Israel to “order” them in many cases. What is special about the US Israel relationship is that the US is still doing what Israel wants most of the time, even if it is contrary to US interests. Many times their interests unfortunately did align in the past.