I’m not worried. I don’t live my life around freak accidents. This really doesn’t need to be national news ruining her life if there wasn’t a crash before hand, that’s the real issue.
Expecting a shit wage employee to act better than cops (let’s set that bar real low) in a dangerous event is silly. That person isn’t paid enough to give a fuck about any of those people. Those that do are going above and beyond.
I’m not worried. I don’t live my life around freak accidents. This really doesn’t need to be national news ruining her life if there wasn’t a crash before hand, that’s the real issue.
I mean she literally crashed her car on the way to the flight she was finally removed from? I agree it’s weird that this makes the news, but it’s probably because the case is so odd…
Expecting a shit wage employee to act better than cops (let’s set that bar real low) in a dangerous event is silly.
It’s shameful that Virgin pays so little. But then again it doesn’t excuse going on the job drunk. Don’t take the job, go on strike for better conditions, all fine by me. But don’t show up drunk to your job where you operate safety equipment. Too much to ask? Also I do expect cops not to be drunk
Cops behave fairly well in countries where they receive any training. Flight attendants do, too.
Some back of the envelope maths suggests that there’s an approximately 10% chance of a given flight attendant being on a flight which is evacuated (based on US data, which is what I could find, where there are about 33 evacuations per year, 9.8 million scheduled passenger flights per year, and where flight attendants work about 64 flights a month (according to a random quora post claiming to be by a flight attendant) and an arbitrary figure of 40 years working.
You might not live your life around freak accidents, but people who design industry safety standards do, and do so for a reason: because when you work in it, the probability of it affecting you goes from “inconsequential” to “significant”. If there’s no rule against turning up drunk to a safety-critical role, or no punishment for breaking it, then eventually someone will die because the flight attendant on duty couldn’t remember how to instruct people properly.
Air travel is safe because aviation has a safety culture, and it has that safety culture because danger in the air is inherently more dangerous than danger elsewhere. You can’t just coast to a stop when there’s a problem on an aeroplane.
A lot of people have no idea about aviation safety, it shows in these kind of threads. I worked in aviation for about 5 years, so I at least have an idea, though I’m far from an expert (about a year as a technical officer in the German Air Force, more of a management role but you still get the basic safety courses like Maintenance Resource Management training, four years of procurement for a maintenance IT system), and how some people approach the subject stumps me. Flying isn’t the safest mean of travel because of its nature, but rather because of rigid rules at every step of the process that are enforced by supervisors and inspectors.
I’m not worried. I don’t live my life around freak accidents. This really doesn’t need to be national news ruining her life if there wasn’t a crash before hand, that’s the real issue.
Expecting a shit wage employee to act better than cops (let’s set that bar real low) in a dangerous event is silly. That person isn’t paid enough to give a fuck about any of those people. Those that do are going above and beyond.
I mean she literally crashed her car on the way to the flight she was finally removed from? I agree it’s weird that this makes the news, but it’s probably because the case is so odd…
It’s shameful that Virgin pays so little. But then again it doesn’t excuse going on the job drunk. Don’t take the job, go on strike for better conditions, all fine by me. But don’t show up drunk to your job where you operate safety equipment. Too much to ask? Also I do expect cops not to be drunk
Cops behave fairly well in countries where they receive any training. Flight attendants do, too.
Some back of the envelope maths suggests that there’s an approximately 10% chance of a given flight attendant being on a flight which is evacuated (based on US data, which is what I could find, where there are about 33 evacuations per year, 9.8 million scheduled passenger flights per year, and where flight attendants work about 64 flights a month (according to a random quora post claiming to be by a flight attendant) and an arbitrary figure of 40 years working.
You might not live your life around freak accidents, but people who design industry safety standards do, and do so for a reason: because when you work in it, the probability of it affecting you goes from “inconsequential” to “significant”. If there’s no rule against turning up drunk to a safety-critical role, or no punishment for breaking it, then eventually someone will die because the flight attendant on duty couldn’t remember how to instruct people properly.
Air travel is safe because aviation has a safety culture, and it has that safety culture because danger in the air is inherently more dangerous than danger elsewhere. You can’t just coast to a stop when there’s a problem on an aeroplane.
A lot of people have no idea about aviation safety, it shows in these kind of threads. I worked in aviation for about 5 years, so I at least have an idea, though I’m far from an expert (about a year as a technical officer in the German Air Force, more of a management role but you still get the basic safety courses like Maintenance Resource Management training, four years of procurement for a maintenance IT system), and how some people approach the subject stumps me. Flying isn’t the safest mean of travel because of its nature, but rather because of rigid rules at every step of the process that are enforced by supervisors and inspectors.
Literally heard this phrase Sunday: Accidents don’t happen – they’re caused.