Monopolies becoming more of a monopolies while the US is weaponized to protect them.
It blows my mind that so many devs did not see this coming the moment Microsoft bought it. I was waiting for this to happen the moment I found out about the acquisition.
I’m only surprised it took this long.
I fully saw it when I heard but alas. I still need the green squares on my github page to get hired. Nobody looks at projects as much as the green squares.
I’m not a developer, but I can certainly understand your position. It’s unfortunate that companies rely on this type of company to decide if someone is worth hiring. There’s a need for companies to have streamlines that look at the actual capabilities and values of potential hires, regardless of where the evidences are hosted.
This world is way too broken, and getting worse every day.
Pretty sure I had Embrace Extend Extinguish as my ‘status’ when microsoft inevitably introduced that linkedin style social media bullshit to a git server.
Plenty of good alternatives out there, or roll your own!
Use Codeberg, or self-host Forgejo
All I want for Christmas in Forgejo federation.
Codeberg has a 750mb limit, for me that is not enough. I need to store asset data as well.
Split the repository? It’s not an unreasonable thing to do.
That said, FreeBSD’s repo is 2ish GiB, and Linux is 3, LLVM is huge too. Not unreasonable to want to mirror those.
If you ask nicely they can increase the limit :). They have the limit to avoid abuse with people storing movies or whatnot (the limit is a recent addition)
Thanks I ll try that
Don’t just move to Codeberg; donate to them too.
i just wanted to drop my personal favorite self-hosted git alternative, Gogs (gogs.io). i have very modest git needs (i just need a place to host code and interact with the
gitclient), and i think it fits the bill well.i am not associated with it at all, i just want folks to know that self-hosting your own git service has really never been easier or better; there are so many good options, like a similar project, gitea.
if you are uncomfortable with exposing your home network to the internet, you can use tools like
tailscale funnelor a reverse proxy server likecaddyand a $5 VPS from any cloud host of your choosing to obscure your home IP, while still keeping the storage and the brains somewhere closeby.imo, the only way forward for all of us to stay safe is to keep repeating a simple mantra: “let’s go back to making websites.”
Codeberg has a lot of restrictions regarding private repositories and… complicated verbiage regarding what licenses they want for public repositories.
For public repositories… do you think that MS et al can’t already scrape all of that?
I am all for telling MS to go fuck themselves. But it is important people actually understand what they are and aren’t getting in terms of privacy and the like. It is like how people still sometimes pretend that the completely open site where just about anyone can run an instance has LESS ai scraping than a reddit.
The key point about codeberg as I understand it is it’s meant for foss projects. It’s not really much more complex than that. Want to host non-free software, or want to use it for your company’s private code repository? They don’t want that on their servers, so either find an alternative or self-host forgejo, which is the same code (derived from gitea) that powers codeberg itself.
Everything M$ touches dies. What a fucking shocker.
This is the most infuriating, heartbreaking and lame thing ever. AI bros are just a bunch of losers ruining stuff for everyone.
These comment make me curious. How many of you have read Microserfs by Douglas Coupland?
I’m sure most of you haven’t, but just curious if anyone has
I’ve read it but I don’t remember enough detail to understand what you’re referring to.
I haven’t read it myself, which is part of what made me wonder. I’m not sure there is anything to reference in the stories. Just a tangent curiosity
i don’t think being owned by a shitty billionare company counts as independent
Are we moving to Codeberg now?
I would like to but I do want some private repos.
Maybe self hosting is the best move from here on in.
Private repos, if you don’t need a forge, can easily be pushed to a VPS with ssh
Or your own server. But yeah this is not so good for the rest of us. They are doubling down on AI.
Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won’t get the “drive by” contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
So what you’re saying is that we need federated git.
Huh. Gitlab just said it’s too hard with their cut staffing numbers and they’re not doing federation.
…git is federated. i’m assuming they’re talking about things like issues and runners, but i don’t think that’s really necessary…
Gitlab just said
…git is federated
If you read it again, you may find I said gitlab and not just git.
And we won’t talk about how git’s decentralization is nothing like the concept of federation as it’s being used in this entire discussion.
we arleady had this discussion further down a few days ago
GitHub is finally dead.
It was dead when MS bought it. Software developers aren’t immune to denial.
People not realising (or not caring enough about) the irony that more than 80% of open source projects are hosted in a platform which is a) not open source and b) owned by M$ has always been a mistery to me.
b) is a recent(*) change. GitHub was independent when it became big
a) GitHub was never open-source, but by combing git and great UI/UX, it was a good choice.
Git is open-source and the distributed nature of git reduces the vendor-lock-in. You need to understand where we came from (svn or git to some ssh server). Coming from self-hosted git, embracing github did not take away your power over your own source code; you still had a copy of all branches on multiple machines. The world is different now, where github has become a single-point of failure.
(*) Update: Okay, maybe 2018 was not recently, but my point stands. GitHub existed long before the Microsoft purchase.
shit, whats this going to mean for repos like massgrave? will microsoft enforce shitty policies against DIY software that’s published there if it violates somebody’s terms of use?
Just move to codeberg or a similar site.
https://git.disroot.org/explore/repos
Codeberg doesn’t allow inactive projects or non FOSS projects afaik
Codeberg doesn’t allow inactive projects or non FOSS projects afaik
if you’re hosting the code on codeberg, aint it foss?
Source-available isn’t the same as free and open-source. You might not be able to distribute or modify as you like to the former and may have any sort of license provisioned with further restrictions.
and so begins the enshitification
That had already started.
How has GitHub been enshittified? It’s a genuine question, because I’ve thought Microsoft has been a pretty good steward of it until now.
For one thing, you can’t do a code search on GitHub unless you have a GitHub account and are logged in.
