Id like to hear thoughts. Of course us gamers hate kernel level anti cheat, but is that actually tied to secureboot?

I know some/most distros can boot in secure mode, so it doesn’t seem like an issue there.

With all the new games moving to it, looks like we will all have to sit them out or install Spyware (microshit) to play. I will opt not to.

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    Kernal level anticheat is invasive and the vast majority of anticheats are probably installing spyware with root access.

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    Neither Secure Boot nor TPM were ever actually about security and neither meaningfully improves security. They are DRM features that exist solely to ensure you can never truly own the things you buy.

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    The biggest issue to me is that if you (the OS maker) wants a shim so you can use your own CA, you have to go through Microsoft. And they can just say no.

    I think Tuxedo is still waiting on their shim.

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    It depends. If it’s under your control with your own keys then it can be beneficial. If it’s under someone else’s control (as it is for most people) then it’s a step towards the walled garden.

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    I’ve avoided kernal anti-cheat basically forever on principle. On the plus side, there is talk about Microsoft kicking 3rd parties out of the kernal on windows, stemming from the cloudstrike debacle. If they kick out anti-virus, I can’t imagine that they let game publishers stay. We might actually see the death of kernal anti-cheat soon.

    On a side-note, it’s a really sad state that so much of the world runs on computers but the majority of people don’t know the first thing about using them. It has led us to so many bad places today that I really didn’t expect when I was a teen…

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    Worst part is everything has to use Microsoft’s signing keys, so it’s ironically a gigantic security hole if your threat model includes being on Microsoft’s shit list.

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        Which makes this requirement even more meaningless because someone who wants to cheat by running a modified kernel will obviously know how to follow a tutorial to add his MOK and sign his version of the kernel.