• belit_deg@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    How about reducing our dependence on data centres by using software that is more peer to peer and local first etc?

    Of course some data centres have legitimate use cases, such as big data analysis on weather and climate data etc, but building huge data centres for social media and running everything in the cloud is silly from an environmental perspective

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      3 hours ago

      Distributed computing would eliminate the water usage, since the heat output wouldn’t be so highly concentrated, but it would probably somewhat increase power consumption.

      In an ideal world I think data center waste heat would be captured for use in a district thermal grid / seasonal thermal energy store like the one in Vantaa.

      Of course that isn’t to say that we shouldn’t be thinking about whether we’re using software efficiently and for good reasons. Plenty of computations that take place in datacenters serve to make a company money but don’t actually make anyone’s lives better.

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        11 minutes ago

        If I’m having a video meeting p2p instead of microsoft teams running in the cloud, that would reduce power consumption, not increase it.

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        In an ideal world I think data center waste heat would be captured for use in a district thermal grid / seasonal thermal energy store like the one in Vantaa.

        Yes, this would be the ideal for dealing with that issue. Re-use that heat to generate some of the energy the data center is demanding.

        Imagine there’s an engineering & physics issue to be solved. But where would we find those top talent people to solve it?