Mothers who planned freebirths that ended in a hospital transfer say they've been "gaslit" or "abandoned" by birth workers and kicked out of group chats meant to support them. The movement is facing increasing criticism for "groupthink" and "extremism".
Ah yes, yet another way to control and hurt women. The whole idea of medical care during birth is based on situations where you happen to need it. If things go well, they go well. Being at the hospital or having a midwife is about when things go off the rails. The vast majority of people want you and your child to survive childbirth, which is a dangerous and difficult process for many out there. Anyone who says “just don’t have help you might need, it’ll be fine” is either a liar or actively trying to harm you.
This is just another branch of “under the hood” religious nutjobiness like Tradwives which all boils down to active alt-right control over women.
My ex and I worked on a birth plan for our second child after her experience with our first was deeply unsatisfying. We discussed home birth but I insisted on a birthing center attached to a hospital in case something went sideways. She found an OB who listened to her, and we made clear what our birthing plan was, and that was respected by the medical staff. As it happened, the labor was smooth and relatively quick, and home birth would have been fine. I’m still glad we were at a facility where there would have been no lag between a problem arising and a doctor being able to address it.
How the hell do you blame this on religion or the alt right? Did you read the whole article? This is that earthy/hippy branch of conspiracy theorists who praise anything not “natural”. These aren’t MAGA anti vaccers or Christian fundamentalist. These are praise Gaia our Earth mother assholes who think water isn’t a chemical or Gwyneth Paltro vagina eggs are fine because women.
The cultist practices in general didn’t even have a religious motif nor a real political affiliation. The women in this group are hurting themselves by letting a bunch of dumbass women with zero medical training supervise their births. This is just stupid ppl listening to other stupid ppl
The pipeline from “crunchy to conspiracy” is very real. There always been some conspiracy on the left and far left of course don’t get me wrong but now with social media, algorithms, troll farms etc. those who are predisposed to conspiratorial thinking are going over the cliff. It was simply a matter of finding which topics they could exploit, like vaccines which originally mainly had those on the left being against them. You can still be very left while believing and supporting right wing ideas and policy because it has been presented to you in a way you find palatable and appealing and of course gives you plausible deniability that it’s actually some how not right wing allowing both your ego and identity to survive the shift.
A lot of far left supporters actually support some wildly oppressive, authoritarian and ableist ideas
Ah yes, yet another way to control and hurt women. The whole idea of medical care during birth is based on situations where you happen to need it. If things go well, they go well. Being at the hospital or having a midwife is about when things go off the rails. The vast majority of people want you and your child to survive childbirth, which is a dangerous and difficult process for many out there. Anyone who says “just don’t have help you might need, it’ll be fine” is either a liar or actively trying to harm you.
This is just another branch of “under the hood” religious nutjobiness like Tradwives which all boils down to active alt-right control over women.
My ex and I worked on a birth plan for our second child after her experience with our first was deeply unsatisfying. We discussed home birth but I insisted on a birthing center attached to a hospital in case something went sideways. She found an OB who listened to her, and we made clear what our birthing plan was, and that was respected by the medical staff. As it happened, the labor was smooth and relatively quick, and home birth would have been fine. I’m still glad we were at a facility where there would have been no lag between a problem arising and a doctor being able to address it.
How the hell do you blame this on religion or the alt right? Did you read the whole article? This is that earthy/hippy branch of conspiracy theorists who praise anything not “natural”. These aren’t MAGA anti vaccers or Christian fundamentalist. These are praise Gaia our Earth mother assholes who think water isn’t a chemical or Gwyneth Paltro vagina eggs are fine because women.
The cultist practices in general didn’t even have a religious motif nor a real political affiliation. The women in this group are hurting themselves by letting a bunch of dumbass women with zero medical training supervise their births. This is just stupid ppl listening to other stupid ppl
lol this guy thinks hippies aren’t right wing conspiracy freaks
They can be but unless I missed something the ppl in this article are clearly not right wingers
The pipeline from “crunchy to conspiracy” is very real. There always been some conspiracy on the left and far left of course don’t get me wrong but now with social media, algorithms, troll farms etc. those who are predisposed to conspiratorial thinking are going over the cliff. It was simply a matter of finding which topics they could exploit, like vaccines which originally mainly had those on the left being against them. You can still be very left while believing and supporting right wing ideas and policy because it has been presented to you in a way you find palatable and appealing and of course gives you plausible deniability that it’s actually some how not right wing allowing both your ego and identity to survive the shift.
A lot of far left supporters actually support some wildly oppressive, authoritarian and ableist ideas