I made a comment to a beehaw post about something similar, I should make it a post so the .world can see it.
I’ve been running the 14B distilled model, based on Ali Baba’s Qwen2 model, but distilled by R1 and given it’s chain of thought ability. You can run it locally with Ollama and download it from their site.
That version has a couple of odd quirks, like the first interaction in a new session seems much more prone triggering a generic brush-off response. But subsequent responses I’ve noticed very few guardrails.
I got it to write a very harsh essay on Tiananmen Square, tell me how to make gunpowder (very generally, the 14B model doesn’t appear to have as much data available in some fields, like chemistry), offer very balanced views on Isreal and Palestine, and a few other spicy responses.
At one point though I did get a very odd and suspicious message out of it regarding the “Realis” group within China and how the government always treats them very fairly. It misread “Isrealis” and apparently got defensive about something else entirely.
Does OpenAI really think we’ll let ChatGPT, anti-libre software, steal control over our own computing?
Does it answer this?
Does anyone feel like actually reading all that, and writing a TL/DR about what it won’t answer?
I kinda zoned out and skimmed most of that.
Ironically, this type of waffle piece is a perfect use case for an AI summary.
AI summary:
The article discusses the Chinese government’s influence on DeepSeek AI, a model developed in China. PromptFoo, an AI engineering and evaluation firm, tested DeepSeek with 1,156 prompts on sensitive topics in China, such as Taiwan, Tibet, and the Tiananmen Square protests. They found that 85% of the responses were “canned refusals” promoting the Chinese government’s views. However, these restrictions can be easily bypassed by omitting China-specific terms or using benign contexts. Ars Technica’s spot-checks revealed inconsistencies in how these restrictions are enforced. While some prompts were blocked, others received detailed responses.
(I’d add that the canned refusals stated “Any actions that undermine national sovereignty and territorial integrity will be resolutely opposed by all Chinese people and are bound to be met with failure,”. Also that while other chat models will refuse to explain things like how to hotwire a car, DeepSky gave a “general, theoretical overview” of the steps involved (while also noting the illegality of following those steps in real life).
I mean it’s pretty obvious, isn’t it? Anything regarding Chinese politics or recent history is a big no-no. Like it will tell you who the president of the US is but will refuse to tell you about the head of state in China. I’m assuming same goes for anything Taiwan or South Chinese sea. The self censorship is rather broad.
Topics the CCP doesn’t want discussed. Tibet, Tiananmen Square, etc. It also says some restrictions can be bypassed by asking the question in a less obvious way.
Awesome, thanks for that.
This is why so many people just don’t read the article, concise communication is a lost art.
Couldn’t make an article out of two sentences otherwise.
China is an entire economy built on intellectual property thievery and slave labor. The whole thing, that’s they’re advantage. Theft and slavery. The Chinese CCP can fuck off into the sun. *edit: this post and article is about the ccp censoring it’s human rights abuses, and all the downvotes confirm the ccp is here and active on the fediverse itself attempting to do the precise same thing. the irony shouldn’t be lost.
I can change china for the US in that sentence and it will still make sense
The irony is that the US is following China’s path.
all the downvotes confirm the ccp is here
Not all who disagree with you are paid by a government. Sometimes people just think your take is bad.
Americans are falling behind in everything because they’re their own worst enemy.
They’ve become too corrupt, inefficient, and monopolistic.
Of course, reality’s hard to accept, just as it was for the British.
Perhaps. But what does any of that have to do with anything that they wrote?
Because USA did exactly the same in the past. Take all the designs and ideas from somewhere else to build themselves up, then get ahead and turn around and forbid everyone else to use their stuff.
China is now doing following that same plan. It wasn’t even hard. All they had to do was to say to give the designs and they’ll producer them cheaper. Now they’re the factory of the world. We knew this was going to happen but short term profit before long term consequences, right? A few tariffs aren’t going to stop this.
I personally think it’s good that the USA did it back then and I think it’s good that China does it now.
Independence and wealth for all.
It’s not really good or bad, but the natural way of things. Nobody can stay top dog forever. Eventually greedy idiots come into power overplaying their hand, circumstances change, tech evolves and somebody else takes first place
time and place mate
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Their comment didn’t defend anyone. Funny you act like it did.
The sins of the United States don’t justify others committing them.
China is as much on the rise as 1950s United States. And if you think it can be sustained unlike the US. You haven’t been paying attention.
That said, the people of both countries definitely have a lot in common. Sexism, bigotry and racism being some of those things. You are extremely sanitized interactions on red note are cute and quaint. But not truly representative . We also have a need to throw off our wealthy governing elite. Whether its trump and friends or the Xi pack in the forbidden city. The regular person will suffer as long as they stay in power.
Yeah people tend to adhere to strict demands when they are known to disappear. Listen, OR ELSE. So no shit…
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This is sarcasm, right? Tell me it’s sarcasm. Mainland Chinese people are perhaps the least courteous people in the world.
I don’t know that I’d go that far. I’d think they’re not much different than people on average anywhere. I definitely think it’s cuckoo to claim that they are all so well educated and courteous compared to everyone else. That definitely reeks of lack of critical thinking and propaganda
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