apple fanboys are the people who don’t think this shit happens to them.
I say this as an Apple hater: this is a false narrative. Apple fanboys say that their devices are more private, not completely private, and they are (assuming a stock Android OS). That’s not really up for debate. The mistake you’re making is positing privacy as a binary concept. Privacy is a spectrum.
All fanboys are alike.
I just find it ridiculous to think that only android users are aware of privacy issues.
I’ve used both, currently run an iPhone but with end to end encryption turned on. Yet I know that not all things are private.
And the secure “lockdown” mode on iOS disables push notifications for exactly this reason. But the vast majority of people don’t use lockdown mode in their day to day, because it kills a lot of the functionality of the phone. Lockdown mode is intended for people who may actually be targeted by laser-focused hacking attempts. Politicians, celebrities, people with high security clearance, etc… It’s not something that the average person would use.
Apple even publishes this as a known vulnerability. It’s due to the way push notifications work. Similar to SMS, push notifications default to unencrypted because there isn’t a single unified system. Each carrier and cell manufacturer handles push notifications differently, so they’re kept unencrypted so that the public encryption key doesn’t get lost during transit; That would just result in scrambled junk messages.
but the apple fanboys tell me their phone is private!
I got news for you. Google does this too. Have a great day.
yes. we all know.
apple fanboys are the people who don’t think this shit happens to them.
the only halfway private smartphones are unlocked androids that can be used with a degoogled OS. and even then.
I say this as an Apple hater: this is a false narrative. Apple fanboys say that their devices are more private, not completely private, and they are (assuming a stock Android OS). That’s not really up for debate. The mistake you’re making is positing privacy as a binary concept. Privacy is a spectrum.
apple devices are just as private as googles
Read again
i read what you said. its not true, they are both mining as much data as they possibly can regardless of what their marketing department lets out.
i mean, the snowden leaks still hold true and we are literally in a thread discussing how apple shares data with governments.
What you think I said is not true. But that’s not what I said. I said Apple devices are more private.
what do you think i think you said? because it sounds pretty clear to me.
All fanboys are alike. I just find it ridiculous to think that only android users are aware of privacy issues. I’ve used both, currently run an iPhone but with end to end encryption turned on. Yet I know that not all things are private.
How dare you ruin their narrative
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And the secure “lockdown” mode on iOS disables push notifications for exactly this reason. But the vast majority of people don’t use lockdown mode in their day to day, because it kills a lot of the functionality of the phone. Lockdown mode is intended for people who may actually be targeted by laser-focused hacking attempts. Politicians, celebrities, people with high security clearance, etc… It’s not something that the average person would use.
Apple even publishes this as a known vulnerability. It’s due to the way push notifications work. Similar to SMS, push notifications default to unencrypted because there isn’t a single unified system. Each carrier and cell manufacturer handles push notifications differently, so they’re kept unencrypted so that the public encryption key doesn’t get lost during transit; That would just result in scrambled junk messages.