Also noteworthy that not only are PS5 sales behind PS4, but the PlayStation’s competition has almost entirely disappeared, and that hasn’t resulted in more PlayStations sold.

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    Certainly, but we’d then have to compare with the used ps5 market, which dips well below $300.

    Can a used pc or a build with used components be had with comparable performance to ps5? Even with a much larger budget of say, $800?

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      I can’t imagine finding a used PS5 in decent condition for sub-$300 man. That’s a bit far fetched. That’s “buddy who doesn’t need it did me a solid” pricing. I say this as someone who absolutely considers consoles an (often) economical choice. Cheapest I’m seeing is a digital with no controller “for parts or as is” on eBay for $225.

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        Why not? Like I said the certified refurbished directly from Sony is $399. Plenty of listings up right now for $285-330

        But even if we compare new consoles to used PCs I think the conclusion is the same

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          Show me those listings lol I’ll buy one right now. And “well below” $300 is not $285-$330 dude. I could see $300-$325 refurbished but sub-$300? Rare rare find. Certainly not from a reputable vendor, that’s buying from an individual if you can even find that.

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            And “well below” $300 is not $285-$330

            You’re equivocating. In that instance I am responding directly to your claim that it’s far fetched to find a used one around the $300 point.

            You’ll notice when you quoted me you also excluded the word “dips”. It’s dishonest for you frame my position as misrepresentative of the market by presenting my numbers without the couching I presented them with.

            And why do you want to quibble over $50 when it doesn’t affect the discussion at all? Let’s just work with the higher prices, or even the brand new prices for that matter

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              I didn’t say that man. I think this is also needlessly escalating. Yes consoles are often the more economical choice, no I do not think the prices you are saying you can find refurbished digital PS5’s at are realistic, especially not with a controller. But ultimately none of this is that high stakes. Agree to disagree.

              That being said if you do have a $285-$330 refurbished PS5 listing you know about I genuinely want to see it for my own purchase lol

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                But ultimately none of this is that high stakes

                Been saying that for four comments now lol

                Yes consoles are often the more economical choice

                This right here is the main idea, yeah, even when looking at the used market for PC components. Glad we found our way back, and even ended up in complete agreement at the end

                As for the help you requested sifting through listings, used and refurbished are different things, you should know. Refurbished direct from Sony is $400, looks like gamestop will do it for $370. This sets a hard cap on used prices, so you’ll notice all the used listings (that actually sell) are below that.

                You should also know they have websites for you to track what actually sells, and not just the listings that are left standing for a while because the price is mediocre. Worth checking that out so you know where to watch, and have a good chance of getting a good price when it appears. Best of luck to you

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                  Yes I know the difference between used and refurbished. You brought up refurbished so I went with what you stated. A link to any of these listings or sites would go a long way, I’m not sure why you’re so resistant to it but I’ll just move on.

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                    I’m not sure why you’re so resistant to it but I’ll just move on.

                    Oh, sorry yeah I can clear that up.

                    The reason I don’t feel like dancing for you is because you’re dishonest, aggressively self righteous, and obviously just want to fight about something meaningless for no reason.

                    Spend the extra forty bucks for something official if you don’t trust used, and don’t start dumb semantic arguments with people if you’re gonna want their help after. Not that I think you really do, mind. Just pointing out how ridiculous that whole pretense is.

                    Anyway, yeah. Probably is best if you moved along