• qyron@sopuli.xyz
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    I’m not sure where are you exactly aiming with your remark but I’m going to retort based on what I want to perceive from it.

    It’s better to have national airplanes pick up your nationals than to condone allow them to be transported in military aircrafts, handcuffed and who knows what else, like criminals.

    To my knowledge, Colombia refused military airplanes to land/cross their airspace, while at the same time calling out the social upturn being enacted by the new american cabinet. They denounced the attitude of a wannabe dictator, and in a very straightforward way. The rest of the world should be ashamed and banding together by now.

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      It’s better to refuse it entirely rather than capitulate. Which is what they did. And they are now complicit in Trump’s ethnic cleansing.

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        So you would rather have your kin handled like waste, than secure their safe return to their country?

        For what? Bragging rights? Bragging over blood? Would those be acceptable losses to further a cause?

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          I would rather have world leaders not be complicit in ethnic cleansing, but apparently you’re okay with it.

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            Would you want your kin killed for the sake of making a vanity moral stance?

            What I’m okay or not with we can discuss after you answer my question.

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              Do you think he won’t just start killing anyway? Do you know how much these flights cost?

              You don’t negotiate with Nazis because they don’t give a shit and will do whatever they want regardless.

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                Who cares about the cost? Nothing is more costly than spilled blood that can be avoided. Refusing military flights to carry your people is not condoning with the fascist regime currently in place in the US.

                And, again, to my knowledge, all military flights are being refused to enter colombian air space, for the reasons you are pointing. Colombia went to get their people, after giving the US a piece of their mind. By contrast, Brasil received theirs handcuffed like dangerous criminals.

                Leaving those they want to deport to die is coward. The statement issued by the colombian president should be undersigned by every other country in the world.

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                  Who cares about the cost?

                  Read some history. That’s exactly why the Nazis came up with the Final Solution. It was the most cost-effective way to deal with what they viewed was a problem.

                  The statement issued by the colombian president should be undersigned by every other country in the world.

                  Thanks, Neville Chamberlain. What could go wrong with trusting Nazis to keep their word?

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                    The US is using military planes to carry unwanted individuals, under inhumane conditions. Colombia refuses to allow those flights, sends their own means to get back theirs… and that is to condone the new US regime?

                    What am I missing? I admit to be confused.

                    And the highest representative of a country publicly and openly denounces the attitude and actions of a dictator in trainning, when other nations haven’t, and that is not enough to make a position? What else, then?