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davel@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 7 months ago

Zelensky admits Ukraine does not have military strength to reclaim lost territories from Russia

www.independent.co.uk

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Zelensky admits Ukraine does not have military strength to reclaim lost territories from Russia

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davel@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 7 months ago
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Ukrainian president rules out conceding land to Russia but calls for stronger Western intervention
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    7 months ago

    US only instigated this war to weaken Russia

    Well, that’s certainly a perspective.

    Really unclear how the US forced Russia to invade, you’ll have to explain that part I think.

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      Not forced, more goaded. This is the war the US wanted, but it didn’t want to be seen as the one who started it.

      NATO expansion:

      • George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
      • Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
      • Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
      • Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
      • Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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      US-backed Maidan coup & fascist attacks on Eastern Ukraine:

      • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
      • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
      • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
      • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
      • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
      • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
      • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
      • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
      • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
      • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
      • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
      • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
      • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
      • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
      • Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
      • NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
      • Ciderpunk@lemmy.world
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        Love the “you made me do this to you” energy here, very progressive stance of believing that sometimes abusers just have to hit people, and there’s truly nothing that can be done about it.

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          The geopolitics of nuclear powers as an interpersonal relationship. Peak Marvel brain.

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            Yeah, analogies are hard when you take them as literally as possible.

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        Jesus Fucking Gish Gallop Christ.

        Nobody forced Russia to invade another sovereign nation. If anything it goes to show that being in NATO keeps you safe from Russia (just look at the baltic states). If Putin and/or Russia’s goal was to stop NATO expansion this war already did the opposite.

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      The war exists only because Russia’s conditions for peace are not accepted. No NATO (or missile bases) in Ukraine. There was a very patient peace agenda by Russia, signed by the west and Ukraine btw, before SMO.

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        The war exists because Russia invaded. You can’t have a “peace agenda” or “conditions for peace” until someone started a war in the first place, and that was Russia.

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          I don’t believe your position can be honest. It basically says all bar fights are started by the one throwing first punch, no matter what threats are made. All US media and CIA subterfuge to corrupt democracies is not done for the benefit of the democracies. War on Russia is largely a US war on its allies, and tolerance for the concept that Russia is not forced to defend its existence, or have red lines where peace can thrive, just shows how corrupt and fooling democracy can be. Not that Ukraine is a democracy.

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