Mike Aruba!

Unfortunately not everyone is aware that water is wet. And often there are groups who try and convince people otherwise.

I agree that more ideas need to be put into action that can actually accomplish change for the better, but that requires that people be informed first.

Seems a little overboard for some kind of friendly conversation, especially when it had nothing to do with my general point. I was just stating that I wasn’t comfortable with marketing in general. The implication being from large corporations.

As I’ve never taken an intro to business course, as I’m not interested in that aspect of hyper-capitalism that entails, I just go on the general context of the thread and general sentiment. Not a super-literal definition given in your community college.

The hyperbole seems to be all yours, you’ve taken a statement I used to lead into the general topic of my comment and somehow built an entire personality out of to assign to me.

I’m not comfortable with marketing. That is my personal opinion. I know lots of other people have other opinions. Some people are neutral, they don’t give a shit. Others seem to think of it as completely and utterly necessary in every degree of society. They’re allowed that, I have no power nor will to take that from them.

Your very first comment. Where you responded to someone saying people shouldn’t be on either side because they’re both bad, you said we should be on one side because the other is bad. That’s saying one is bad, one is good, unless you’re saying we should be on the side of a bad guy.

You’re right that Israel is in the wrong. They made an attack on a sovereign nation, mostly to distract from that genocide you speak of.

That has nothing to do with Iran being in the wrong, though, which these days they regularly are. And thus we shouldn’t take their claims that they’re on the up and up and totally good guys at face value.

But that wasn’t your original point, your original point was that one side was bad and the other wasn’t. That was the entire crux of this argument. Are you abandoning that now to just say “Israel bad, all else is irrelevant”?

I’m perfectly fine without those, yeah. Though you seem to be taking my meaning to a more extreme degree than was inferred.

And yet you seem to be taking one side at face value while dismissing the other out of hand…

Seems less about reasonable skepticism and more about implicit and unreasonable bias.

It means take anything they say they’re doing with a block of salt.

Yeah, but it’s “the west” with this evidence and clearly we can’t trust anything they say, no matter how defensible the evidence is. Because west bad, or aomething.

Sure, if you only take it at it’s most extreme and dont use a little bit of critical thinking. I specifically referenced companies in a thread about large corporations manipulating social issues for their own gain. I also gave wiggle room with the 99 out of a 100 reference.

I think you also cast far too wide a net with your definitions of marketing, especially in the context of the conversation happening.

I’d check your own sky to be absolutely sure it’s falling before throwing aspersions like that around. You may have a hysterical over-exaggeration of your own there.

The people own it, at least for now. They just have to start showing up. The capital class certainly want us to think it’s a lost cause, because there’s still enough to stop them before it’s too late.

Universal basic income is a stopgap at best. A bandaid to keep capitalism running just a little bit longer before it all collapses in on itself. More robust social programs and government backed competition for basic needs like housing, food, and internet are a minimum if we want to make any kind of progress.

I’m not comfortable with companies using any kind of marketing tactics. Because 99 times out of a 100 it’s speedy and underhanded.

But since they’re going to be doing it anyways, doing it with pride, or disenfranchised demographics, at least normalizes their humanity. Which, at the end of the day, is the point of pride month et al.

Which is out now. As per the text blurb under the post link. So the game is fully released, and the 1.1 update is fully released. There may be features for future updates in early beta, but nothing related to this post.

For consumer electronics? Probably a long time. For industrial applications? Quite often.

… do you think Apple is the only highly successful company in the world? There’s tons of others… like Epic.

I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.

At least you admit to your ignorance, that’s the first step to actually knowing what the hell you’re talking about :)

I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.

You can make some vague claims that it’s going to be good for small businesses and independent developers… but realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich. Any benefit to anyone else is going to be negligible.

Give Tim Sweeney lots of money? Why would the government do that?

You’re right, if you can’t boil an argument down to a tweet it’s clearly not worth listening to :)

Not a single person in the world can fix all issues all at once. Most people can barely keep one important thing in their mind at a time. We have too many things to worry about to obsess about a group of people who have almost no power anymore. If the time comes when the pendulum swings back in their direction, sure, it’s worth making it an issue… but the world is on fire and you seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time buying gasoline.

Stop trying to fight every battle all at once, and most importantly stop trying to get everyone else to care about every battle you’re obsessed with fighting. They’ll just end up treating it like everything else, too much to deal with.